Re: real and virtual worlds

From: Andy Blunden (
Date: Sat Jan 03 2004 - 03:16:34 PST

or that a class-in-itself, lacking self-consciousness, is prone to the
consciousness of the other, (which is a class-for-itself) and therefore
"false"? A
At 08:54 AM 3/01/2004 -0200, you wrote:
>"Firstly, 'class consciousness' has an important double-meaning: (1) an
>individual's identification with a social class, and (2) the
>self-consciousness of a social class. These two are obviously
>inter-related and inseparable historically." Oudeys
>Hi all,
>According to marxian ideas - and in the theoric network of
>historical-dialectical materialist approach - it is necessary to have in
>mind two different ways of understanding the concept of class: (1) as
>class IN itself and (2) as class TO itself. Roughly I'd say that first
>notion is much more related to what we call "false consciousness" and the
>last one to a "true" consciousness.
>Ricardo Ottoni Vaz Japiassu
>Universidade do Estado da Bahia/Uneb

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