Mmm. When I try to re-trace the discussion it gets complicated. First off,
I asked the list for a critique of Mead from a Vygotsky point of view. I
was recommended to an article by Michael Glassman, and I commented that I
did not recognise Glassman's Vygotsky, and I then had an extended and
comradely discussion with Michael off-line, and it was with Michael that I
came to a brick wall on the question of "mediation". Michael simply did not
see a place for the concept of mediation, while I cannot understand
anything without it! But I don't know really how much Michael's view
reflected the Dewey/Mead point of view, far less that of CHATters.
For Mead, famously, even the relation of self-consciousness ("I") to itself
is mediated through the sensuous perception of "me", in the complex of
reactions to I's actions from those around I, sensuously united with the
feeling of I's body and hearing I's own words. If I can only get to know I
as me, i.e. me-diated, then obviously I can only get to know other
self-consciousnesses, with which I have no point of direct (unMeadiated)
contact, in a med-iated way!
Andy
At 04:29 PM 24/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Great quote from Hegel, Andy. Sounds just like Vygotsky! :-) It might
>be interesting if you have the time to pull up some of the prior discussion
>re mediation and Vygotsky to see how his ideas could be construed if
>mediation were not at the center of his thinking.
>mike
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