RE: Vygotsky and Postmodernism

From: Carrie L. Lobman (lobman@rci.rutgers.edu)
Date: Thu Sep 11 2003 - 16:38:34 PDT


Thanks for the suggestions. Its funny--I've read both those Early Childhood
books, but I saw the postmodern without seeing the Vygotsky.

One of the things I like about reading Vygotsky is the way he moves in and
out of the modernist concretness into a more postmodern methodology. You are
reading and all of a sudden he says something that shakes up your thinking
and challenges everything you thought. For example, his description of the
relationship between thought and language being one of completion rather
than speech being the expression of thought---this always stops me in my
tracks for how it exposes our linear biases.

Thanks again,
Carrie
  -----Original Message-----
  From: lev [mailto:vygotsky who-is-at nateweb.info]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:56 PM
  To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
  Subject: Re: Vygotsky and Postmodernism

  I think Vygotsky was very clearly situated in modernism, but also has been
interpreted creatively into a postmodern context. In addition to Holzman,
I think Dot Robbins has done some creative work in this area.

  Particularly in early childhood education, Vygotsky has been interpreted
post modernly. I think "Deconstructing Early Childhood Education" uses
Vygotsky constantly in her critique. Beth Graue in her book on research
interprets Leont'ev, Vygotsky and Mike Cole post modernly. Much as this is
because in early childhood there is a strong biological / individual focus.
Vygotsky becomes attractive because he un-naturalizes processes like
development.

  But overall, I think he clearly falls in the modernist camp. Most of his
work was in very concrete activity settings, education, defectology etc.

  lobman@rci.rutgers.edu wrote:
    Hi,

    Several weeks ago, in response to a thread about the arts in teacher
    education, I talked about a professional development project I had
    created where early childhood teachers received training in
    improvisation. I was invited to write a chapter on this project for a
    book titled "Putting Postmodern Theories into Practice". The book
    focuses on the use of postmodern theories in early childhood education
    and teacher education.

    One of the questions that has come up in my dialogues with the editors
    is that they have trouble seeing/understanding Vygotsky as a postmodern
    theorist. I am aware that postmodernism means different things to
    different people and I am working on how to articulate how I see the
    seeds of postmodernism in Vygotsky's writing. He obviously wrote in
    modernist terms, but the search for method, the diale! ctics of tool and
    result, process/product; his focus on activity; the social construction
    of learning and development, performing... all of this seems to be ahead
    of his time and to have much to offer the postmodern challenge to truth,
    reality, dualism and the need for new ways of understanding and seeing
    the world and human life.

    This understanding of Vygotsky has been very useful to me as an educator
    and a researcher. Do others think similarly and/or have other thoughts
    on Vygotsky and postmodernism. Does anyone know of some writing on
    this---I've read Newman and Holzman's work and I've read others whose
    work is not overtly postmodern, but who I see as having a postmodern
    understanding of Vygotsky-ex. Luis Moll's discussion of the creative,
    fluid, ongoing process of people creating culture... I would be
interested
    in what other people think.

    Thanks,
    Carrie Lobman



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