Re: Space and time in chat

From: Paul Adler (padler@usc.edu)
Date: Thu Jul 17 2003 - 13:42:45 PDT


Could you send me a copy of this paper, Yjro. It sounds interesting.
P

At 9:24 PM +0300 7/17/03, Yrjö Engeström wrote:
>If someone is interested, we (myself, Anne Puonti and Laura
>Seppänen) recently wrote a paper on space and time in a CHAT
>perspective, drawing on findings of three recent empirical studies.
>The paper should come out within a couple of months. Here is the
>information:
>
>Engeström, Y., Puonti, A. & Seppänen, L. (2003). Spatial and
>temporal expansion of the object as a challenge for reorganizing
>work. In D. Nicolini, S. Gherardi & D. Yanow (Eds.), Knowing in
>organizations. M. E. Sharpe.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Yrjo Engestrom
>
>
>
>On Tuesday, Jul 15, 2003, at 21:49 Europe/Helsinki, Bill Barowy wrote:
>
>>Just time for a brief opinion -- and opinions being like belly
>>buttons i have
>>one too -- I consider space and time to be cultural constructs, as are the
>>tools that make their meaning and measurement (clocks, rulers, etc.).
>>Consequently, Engestrom's CHAT need not be extended in principle, but only
>>more fully explicated with these and related constructs instantiating the
>>element of artifacts, in the manner of Wartofsky. Quick examples are how
>>special relativity and then general relativity systematically reconceptualize
>>space and time over cartesian constructs, how the Internet has broken down
>>space/time barriers to communications, and how print (now more generally
>>"information storage" has extended our memory.
>>
>>But that is not the only element that is explanatory of space and time. In
>>Engestroms's CHAT the category of rules carries the routines, the "scripts"
>>in the Shank an Abelson sense, and, in part, the "synomorphs" in Barker's
>>sense, the contraints and affordances of Gibson (aka Norman) of how humans
>>access, move through, and exploit space and time. Schedules, driving/walking
>>on the right in the US or on the left in the UK, staying on the proper side
>>of the tennis net, and, my favorite example, is the breaking of spatial
>>scripts by skateboarders, who grind on a hand rail and ollie over curbs,
>>steps, and fences.
>>
>>Anyway, apologies for such a compulsive post. But I do recommend
>>highly using
>>Barker's work as a foil in this discussion.
>>
>>bb

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