Re: King's ideas

From: David H Kirshner (dkirsh@lsu.edu)
Date: Mon Feb 24 2003 - 12:43:47 PST


I agree that the CH SIG would be well served by an award that is in the
spirit originally intended for the Scribner award. But I doubt a Scribner
award sponsored by the SIG would remain a "high profile award" for long,
once removed from the Division auspices. We do have something to lose here:
(1) the broad circulation of Sylvia's name (albeit without knowledge of her
work on the part of most listeners); and (2) the institutional legacy of
our centrality in the Division, as represented by the naming of the
Divisional award. Whether these two benefits outweigh the insult of
ignoring her intellectual legacy in the selection of Divisional awardees is
open to discussion. But it is worth noting King's observation that "Most
other division- and AERA-level awards are not closely tied to the person
name of the award"

David Kirshner
Louisiana State University

                                                                                                              
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                                               Subject: King's ideas
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It's worth much more than $.02, King! I think what we just exchanged is a
good example of different perspectives along the the newbie/oltimer lines
but
sharing the chat framework. I think your offering of the contradictions
raised in changing the scope of the Scribner award, based upon the cultural

capital earned through your past participation, are right on.

AERA, as you know, has sanctioned each SIG offering an award, and presently

CHSIG has none. This would be a good candidate.

Does anybody else want to support or express concerns with King's ideas?
Please feel free to write in here or privately to me and i'm assuming to
King
or Mike as well. With AERA coming up, there may be an opportunity to meet,

and I expect to be there Tues-Thurs.

bb

On Monday 24 February 2003 11:51 am, King Beach wrote to all of us:
> BB and others
>
> Here's my two cents worth on this...
>
> If the Scribner award is to be a viable career award for all of Div.
> C, it needs to have a pretty broad wording because of the breadth of
> the division. Most other division- and AERA-level awards are not
> closely tied to the person name of the award, though we naively
> thought this one could be, in part because of the nature of Sylvia's
> work and because of the organization structure we put in place.
> Trying to convince Div. C to narrow/specify the award statement will
> be a no-go in my opinion because of the nature of a division career
> award (and also because of the top-down nature of division
> governance).
>
> It seems rather more feasible to remove Sylvia's name from the Div. C
> award and use it for a CH SIG award. I know that the number and
> range of nominations for the Div. C award have decreased over the
> years because of the way the nominating/voting process has been
> handled and the justified perception of exclusivity. Removing
> Sylvia's name from it may further the downhill slide of the award
> status. I suspect that a letter from the SIG , prominent SIG
> members, and perhaps one of Sylvia's relatives would do the trick.
>
> This will give the CH SIG the possibility of having a high profile
> award more closely linked with Sylvia's work. I would not limit it
> to those who draw directly on Sylvia's work, but rather to the
> theories/methodologies/issues with which Sylvia was concerned. My
> own preference would be to set up a prominent and hard working awards
> committee similar to the one that was initially in place for Div. C
> with some of the members rotating off and new on each year, publicize
> the award nominating process/committee members widely, and go for it!
>
> Cheers,
>



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