Re: garbled history

From: Ricardo Ottoni Vaz Japiassu (rjapias@uol.com.br)
Date: Fri Apr 19 2002 - 13:06:01 PDT


If they meet one another it has not been proved. But, a carefull reading of Vygotsky's Educational Psychology will let one conclude he had, ideed, be strongly influenced by Dewey's ideas on children school education.
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  De: King Beach <kdbeach@pilot.msu.edu>
  Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
  Data: Sexta-feira, 19 de Abril de 2002 14:56
  Assunto: Re: garbled history

  I agree with Mike and Jim on this. Prawat assumes that given shared
  geography and timing, Dewey and Vygotsky must have met when Dewey
  visited Russia, but he has found no direct evidence of such a
  meeting, nor, if there was such a meeting, that they influenced each
  other. I have argued with Dick, who is a colleague here, that some
  broader interpretations of CHAT seem to be run through a filter of
  American pragmatism (Dewey, Mead, and perhaps James) but that this
  influence is mediated by others and has taken place after the
  originating parties were long gone.

  --King

>The entire issue of Dewey, Vygotsky, Russia, etc is horribly garbled.
>Prawat is a fine scholar, but his imagining as about dewey and vygotsky
>meeting are neither necessary nor plausible.
>
>Bruce-- On the other hand, it is well documetned that Dewey went to the
>USSR.
>
>All-- Tread cautiously on disputed, twisted, and contentious historical
>narratives. (This caution applies not only to the case at hand, as we
>have been properly warned by reminders of memory of the turkish
>extermination of Armenians-- also, I am sure, a contentious "truth."
>mike

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