history discussion

From: Mike Cole (mcole@weber.ucsd.edu)
Date: Sun Feb 17 2002 - 16:56:37 PST


I am sorry that events have not allowed me to participate as much as
I would like from the history discussion, which has been full of
interesting ideas. Its a little hard to believe that it started with
arithmetic example!

There have been so many interesting contributions, including Elhammoumi's
discussion with Vygotsky's texts, Helena on con-texts, Paul. Phillip,
and many others on different aspects of the problem that about all I
have been able to do is try to grock as much of it as I could, firm in
the belief that it is archive on xmca for continuing discussion.

Paul's note today inspires a small comment that I think went misunderstood
but have been re-admired given all that intervened. When I speak of
"history as culture in the present" I am NOT assuming that something that
is out there, material stuff sans meaning. Rather, I really do believe
that mind and culture make each other up in a continual process of
becoming. So the subjective/emotional/partial/value laden is inexhorably
there infusing and being infused by the objective/totalizing/presumably
neutral (at least transparent) transformed worlds of prior generations
that are making themselves known to us in various ways.

It will be a fine day when I can visit the website Martin pointed us to
because it was discussions with Sylvia Scribner about Carr that got me
thinking along these lines in the first place.

Thanks for all for the collegial education.

And, as several must have noted, the community issue has not gone away.
I have been a little suprised in view of earlier comments that an article
which purports to use AT to analyze issues of gender in something like
a community have gone completely unremarked on, for better or for worse.
mike



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