Re: Phylogenetic Math Concepts applied to Ontological Math Growth

From: Ricardo Ottoni Vaz Japiassu (rjapias@uol.com.br)
Date: Tue Oct 16 2001 - 18:39:13 PDT


They were... According to brazilian editors (Martins Fontes) they decide to publish the collected works separeted because if they do not did so they would present too much "fat" books to readers...

In fact, they earn much money doing so!

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De: Nate <vygotsky@home.com>
Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Data: Terça-feira, 16 de Outubro de 2001 20:55
Assunto: Re: Phylogenetic Math Concepts applied to Ontological Math Growth

  Child Psychology - Collected Works finishes Vygotsky's study on concepts. I
  imagine they were not separated in Portuguese.

  At 07:29 PM 10/16/2001 -0300, you wrote:

>"(...) I advocate IQ tests becasue it measures a clients ability to
>manipulate abstract concepts".
>Eric
>
>If you let me say a few words on the cotation of yours transcribed above...
>
>It is important to have in mind - and say - that there are two kinds of
>abstract concepts (everyday ones and social or scientific ones - at least
>according to Vygotsky in the complete version of Thinking and Speach,
>published in Portuguese under the title The construction of Thinking and
>Speach - I do not know what is the title of it in English). So, in my
>humble view, IQ tests are usefull only to "mesure" the level of scholl
>literacy of a subject or, in other words, to verify his competence in
>operatting formally with social or scientific concepts which ought to be
>taught in school (Cole and Scribner had yet depicted it). Therefore, I
>myself also have nothing against them - if, of course, we're interested
>just on knowing the level of school literacy of people.
>
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