RE: active learning/teaching at the 7000 level

From: Phillip Capper (phillip.capper@webresearch.co.nz)
Date: Fri Jul 20 2001 - 15:29:57 PDT


Eric,

Precisely what was it in my message that led you to believe that I had
assumed that "the
only environment learning can take place is within the confines of a
'contrived' educational environment ".
I believe no such thing. But what was being asked for here was advice on how
best to operate when such an environment is a given.

Your communication is unclear to me . Are you ascribing egotism and ivory
tower thinking to me? Or are you actually agreeing with me? I will not reply
further until that has been clarified

Phillip Capper
WEB Research
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(Level 9, 142 Featherston Street)
Wellington
New Zealand

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: MnFamilyMan@aol.com [mailto:MnFamilyMan@aol.com]
  Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 15:15
  To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
  Subject: Re: active learning/teaching at the 7000 level

  In a message dated 7/17/2001 3:00:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
  phillip.capper@webresearch.co.nz writes:

    But the teacher as a transformational tool for the students is the
critical
    factor, not the organisation of the classroom. The greatest positive
    influence on my intellectual life was a teacher with terrifyingly rigid
and
    authoritarian practices who also had an absolute and consuming passion
for
    his subject (history). So powerful was this contradiction that, as I
type, I
    am 17 again, simultaneously frightened and inspired. Dealing with that
    contradiction in itself was a transformational exercise in expansive
    learning for all of us in the class. I will not here bore you with the
    extraordinary life paths of so many thst he taught, and how many of
them.
    like me, attribute so much to what at the time seemed to be a
fundamentally
    traumatic experience.

  I am passionate about teaching and learning as well, but to assume that
the
  only environment learning can take place is within the confines of a
  'contrived' educational environment is egotistical and much of the problem
  with education today is how I hear educational leaders talk about what
their
  going to 'do' with students. I say let's get away from these contrived
  environments of abstract design and move to a method that addresses the
  concrete aspect of true 'taught' knowledgeable behaviors, strategies and
  techniques. Explaining how learning takes place at the 'google' level
does
  still not explain proper method of teaching. Learning is not the same as
  teaching.

  Tired of ivory tower thinking,
  Eric



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