Re: 1987

From: Vera John-Steiner (vygotsky@unm.edu)
Date: Mon Jun 04 2001 - 12:43:55 PDT


-----Original Message-----
From: Pedro Portes <prport01@louisville.edu>
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Date: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: 1987

>I most recall that I felt/was totally disconnected from CHAT after my
>independent readings of LSV and what was available then with Jim W., C&
>Scribner..
>Trying to tie my interests and res. on parent-child interaction to zpd,
I.Q.
>etc .. And going to Peru for a year (87 extended to 1988 in a Fulby) to
>teach educ. prog design and eval.
>
>I focused on crosscult. differences but with schooled participants on both
>ends, using c.& Bruner's 1971 piece as a guide..
>
>I was most isolated and just discovering xmca, pissing off regulars with
my
>inept communicado's to mike whom I met at aera then, I recall his
>encouragement, a flash of rare warmth, and soon after, this virtual comm.
>made this locoa-ya'wlkle situ here much more bearable. In sum, I began to
be
>a prof. lurker round that time and xmca activity started transforming the
>object of my soc. interaction research.
>
>prp
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Yrjo Engestrom" <yengestr@ucsd.edu>
>To: "Mike Cole" <mcole@weber.ucsd.edu>; <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 2:09 PM
>Subject: Re: 1987
>
>
>> Dear colleagues, some of my afterthoughts to Learning by Expanding are
>> included in a new introduction which I wrote for the German and Japanese
>> editions of LBE, which both appeared in 1999. The new intro was actually
>> written in 1997, that's why it was titled 'ten years after'. I suppose it
>is
>> included in the web version of the book - at least I sent it to Nate.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Yrjo Engestrom
>>
>> > From: Mike Cole <mcole@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> > Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 20:15:47 -0700 (PDT)
>> > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>> > Subject: 1987
>> >
>> >
>> > I am curious about people's association with the year, 1987. What were
>> > various of xmca's members doing in 1987? What theories were they using
>> > to guide research? What research were they doing?
>> >
>> > Brief summaries would be really helpful to discusion of a book written,
>I
>> > presume, between 1985-1987.
>> >
>> > for myself, I can contribute the following.
>> >
>> > In 1986-1987 I was on sabbatical leave at the Chid Dev unit of the
>Britisyh
>> > Research Council in England. Cultural psychology, or sociocultural
>psychology,
>> > or Vygotsky, or anything connected with such ideas was incomprehensible
>> > to almost all the people I talked to.
>> >
>> > I was dividing my time between trying to write a book that, 9 years
>later,
>> > was published as *Cultural psychology........*, not a title of my
>choosing,
>> > but the best that could be arranged on the spot, with 60 seconds to
make
>up
>> > my mind about how to change the title I had selected.
>> >
>> > And, 18 hour a day efforts to establish "normal" working relationships
>with
>> > colleagues in the Soviet Academy of sciences using the, then, exotic
>medium,
>> > of email.
>> >
>> > I also spent a couple of months working on my book./lectures in
>copenhagen
>> > which a few faithful friends heard through from beginning to end.
>> >
>> > It would take me 10 years to finish the book which became *Cultural
>> > Psychology....
>> > ........" in 1996.
>> >
>> >
>> > In the spring of 1987 Yrjo completed his doctoral thesis which is the
ms
>> > we have been reading, LBE.
>> >
>> > Those of us left alive at now 14 years older. We interpret the text
>written
>> > then through our respective personalities and experience.
>> >
>> > What are they? Having some idea whould help me understand the
discusion.
>> > mike
>> >
>>
>



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