Re: A week to go/YE--->Suomi

From: Nate Schmolze (vygotsky@home.com)
Date: Sat Jun 02 2001 - 10:39:45 PDT


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As luck would have it

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On 6/2/01, 11:54:56 AM, Mike Cole <mcole@weber.ucsd.edu> wrote regarding A
week to go/YE--->Suomi:

> Having reached a small gap in an otherwise overly packed set obligations,
> I tried going back this morning to see where the discussion of LBD 4
stood.
> But as luck would have it it, while the April archive is posted on
lchc.ucsd.
> edu/xmca, May is not, and somehow the discussion "complexed" into
Vygotsky's
> "crisis."

> I missed the transition. And any event, I am aware that our local
academic
> year is coming to an end, Yrjo returns to the land of cell phones and the
> midnight sun, and our allotted time for reading LBE comes to an end.

> Reading through 4e (without recourse to earlier posts) I am impressed by
the
> way it provides a lot pointers to what it means to talk about CHAT as an
> interdisciplinary undertaking, if not a new discipline (with lots of
pointers to its methodology).

> So, for example, I re-enjoyed the discussion of phenomenology and
> the delineation of the activity system which, retrospectively, I
> can see underpinning a lot of the work that has led to the "change
> lab" methodology which Yrjo and his colleagues curently use. And
> the connection of that method to Vygotsky's methodology of "dual
> stimulation" is strongly brought to mind. I have not read Altshuller,
> but found the discussion of his strategy for ferreting out contradictions
> consistent with the forms of participant observation that a number of
> us locally engage in. And Yrjo'
> s comment that " A genuine expansive cycle inevitably produces not
> only civilization (he is referring here to the 7 brother's story)
> but an ingredient of wildness" also fits the phenomenology of my
> recent experiences.

> His conclusion also resonates strongly for me:

> Reporting and assessing outcomes of expansive research is not easy.
> The voyage through the zone of proximal development is best followed
> and recorded by employing a set of multiple methods, ranging from
> phenomenological and anthropological observation of historical
> analysis of performances, conceptions and discourse practices. The
> sheer amount and variety of data collected make new types of report
> ing necessary.

> Amen to that. Hopefully members of this list will provide each other
> with positive examples of how these challenges can be met.

> Chapter 5? Is there a leader lurking in the wings? It seems to offer
> a lot of reprises on recent discussions both within and outside of
> LBE itself.
> mike



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