Re: More time-True Theory?

From: Diane Hodges (dhodges@ceo.cudenver.edu)
Date: Sun May 13 2001 - 20:59:29 PDT


HUH.
i'm perplexed about this "time" and Maturana relation - theory is not fact
nor true,
of course,
so while there are always potentially useful interpretations of an other's
ideas,
it's an enormous reach to assert that this True Theory proves anything,
since no theory is True.
TIME is a word, a method of measurement that is specifically HUMAN,
cultural, social.
it is a language, a semiotic, a desire, a commodity,
but that doesn't mean it's REAL in any "objective" sense since
all we have for substantiating what is objective is human perception
and the tools of human history.
TIME remains an unknown variable, perhaps - i'd agree with that.
it is a dimension that human cultures have yet to comprehend since
everything about TIME is about controlling what may be out of our control.
it's a politic, a power, a knowledge, a desired "fact" but i can't see it
as a REAL thing
beyond its symptoms of movement and change, space,
and language.
diane

xmca@weber.ucsd.edu writes:
>In maturana's Nature of Time the following quotation was found
>
>"I have answered the question what distinctions we connote when we talk
>of
>time? by showing: 1), that we do not and cannot connote an entity or
>natural
>dimension that exists with independence of what we do as observers
>(humans);
>and 2), by showing that we use in daily life the word time to indicate or
>to
>connote an abstraction of our experiences of the succession of processes.
>In
>other words, I have shown that the foundations of the notion of time in
>any
>domain rests on the biology of the observer, not on the domain of physics
>which is a domain of explanations of a particular kind of experiential
>coherences of the observer."
>
>Adhereing to the truth of this statement would explain away any aspect of
>our
>existence.  Agreeing upon a label to explain phenomenon we experience as
>outside ourselvelves is what collects us socially.  Stating that because
>time
>is something we observe and therefore cannot apply it as a nuetral,
>objective
>entity is absurd.  Things exist within reality and time is a pehenomenon
>that
>is separate and unique from any individual's existence.  It is the alpha
>and
>omega that contains Hegel's dialectic.  Within each moment is the option
>for
>a million beyond infinity of options, one thing happens and then the
>moment
>transitions to another moment where the same million beyond infinity of
>options is available again.  Call time whatever you'd like; possibly
>transitioning, or being mobile, or a bargain becasue each moment starts
>fresh

"If you'll excuse me now, I'd like to be alone with my sandwich."
Homer



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