I was reading Judy's message this morning in which she mentions the
"pounding" of ideas. Interestingly,
we found the metaphor of pounding in our recent analyses of 200 metaphors of
collaboration; it was used only by males. There were many shared metaphors
(by men and women) about jointly shaping ideas,
Vera
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Diamondstone <diamonju@rci.rutgers.edu>
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Date: Friday, April 27, 2001 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: reflection (on ending duels - still belabouring)
>Yes, I agree that its the "personal investment... in the worth of (one's)
>own ideas" that motivates the "pounding" of an argument, in your own
>well-chosen words. As if there were no vulnerable people behind the
>personnae we assign to messages.
>
>I like "critical re-direction" -- I wish we were better at doing it.
>
>Judy
>
>
>>the difficulties here - while i applaud the idea - is the personal
>>investment so many have
>>in the worth of their own ideas, couched in "specialization" criteria that
>>legitimize the
>>"pounding" of an argument, yes?
>>
>>separating the individuals from the interaction strikes me as a bit false
>>- as eva points out,
>>this is not something we do - part of the appeal of longterm participating
>>in these venues
>>is the familiarity with names and modes of writing.
>>
>>in any event, i do think we might add critical re-direction to your list:
>>not criticizing and separating, but reflexive re-interpretations, that
>>might re-direct the dueling discourse.
>>
>>>Which leads me to try to articulate what CHAT does entail
>>>axiologically [i.e., relationally/ value-wise], which might be considered
>>>relevant to a discussion of LBE.
>>
>>here i think it might point towards that 'gap' that has been mentioned,
>>between the crisis and the learning, the multiple zpds that overlap and
>>interlace, the learning that bridges between crisis and a new
>>understanding - that is, for example, what's a 'wizardly' gesture here -
>>or a reflexive re-direction that introduces recuperating from the initial
>>loss of a crisis, and points towards a value, i.e. a motive for learning
>>something particular?
>>
>>diane
>>
>>"my doctor says i wouldn't have so many nosebleeds if i would just keep my
>>finger out of there. "
>>Ralph Wiggums.
>>
>>
>
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