Gremlins and Engestrom

From: Nate (vygotsky@home.com)
Date: Wed Mar 28 2001 - 15:44:05 PST


1) Mike, the descriptions you mention were an attempt at administrative
democracy about 3 years ago. One of the things we wanted to do was update
the description page which you spoke about. This stopped working
"automatically" as far as I know soon after I became a member. So, about 3
years ago Bruce put together the list that we see know in descriptions that
as is rightly pointed out - outdated again. To my knowledge this was done
manually going through the XCMA messages and finding corresponding webpages.

I am not even sure the intro message you speak of even works - I think it
has been defunct for years now. I have unsubscribed / resubscribed at
various times - and have never seen it pop up in the xcma messages. While as
Paul mentions one would need to be subscribed to send a message and send an
intro message I am not sure this shows up on xcma anywhere. Maybe the
Gremlins have a nice archive somewhere I'm not sure.

If this is something we want to do - it is not automated and at best
manually like the current descriptions we have only the % who is most vocal.
I think there should be some simple script or form we could use that members
would fill out to give us better information.

2). As for as Engestrom there is no need to scan just convert. We (not a
collective one - me and Engestrom) are currently in the process of getting
the book on my hard drive. After this occurs it will take about a week to
get it online.

Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Cole [mailto:mcole@weber.ucsd.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:53 PM
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Subject: Reading LBE

Dear Xmca-ites,

I do not know how much of learning by expanding Nate has been able to scan,
but it seems, given Yrjo's preference for a divison of coordinating labor
(he will be teaching two classes + during his 10 weeks here, to say nothing
of the work he will be doing at a distance back home!) we need to get
volunteers to host reading segments.

Chapters don't appear to be plausible segmentation units for reading because
there are only 6 of them, including the epilogue, and they are of very
uneven
lengths.

So, I suggest we break the text, for discussion purposes, as follows

1. Introduction: pp, 1-28
2. Emergence of learning activity 29-91, 92-137
3. Zoped as a basic category 138-168, 169-209
4. Instruments of expansion 210-267, 267-317
5. Towards an expansive methodology 318-337
6. Epilogue

Eight weeks worth. During those eight weeks there will be AERA and SRCD (
child dev meetings). Our quarter is 10 weeks long. So, it seems that if we
schedule the 8 sequentially and allow for slack, we could finish by
summer break here at UCSD. That will be AFTER schools close in many parts
of the world, so we might try sticking to the April-May time slot.

NOW: WHAT VOLUNTEERS TO WRITE A BRIEF SUMMARY AND RAISE SOME DISCUSSION
QUESTIONS GOING FOR EACH SEGMENT? Write your responses to XMCA so others
can see what spots are taken. First come, first serve. If you are interested
in a second half of ch 2-4 refer to it as "Numner X, part B."

Having served as the official opponent for this thesis, I recuse myself
from coordination, but not participation.
:-)
mike



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