Re: Bakhtin, moral answerability...

From: Ricardo Ottoni Vaz Japiassu (rjapias@uol.com.br)
Date: Mon Feb 19 2001 - 12:57:20 PST


RATNER, Carl. (1991) Vygotsky's sociohistorical Psychology and its
Contemporaru Applications. Plenum Press: NY.

Chapter 2/Emotions (pgs. 67/72)
Chapter 5/Emotions (pgs. 185/189)

-----Mensagem original-----
De: Paul H.Dillon <illonph@pacbell.net>
Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Data: Domingo, 18 de Fevereiro de 2001 12:51
Assunto: Re: Bakhtin, moral answerability...

>Ricardo,
>
>I think the distinction makes a lot of sense. We normally say of certain
>people "S/he has no feelings." But I've never heard anyone say "S/he has
no
>emotions." The difference of course is precisely that to which you allude.
>The notion of feelings of course seems to connote an intersubjective
>dimension that is not necessarily present with emotions--e.g., I became
very
>angry when my car got a flat tire in the middle of rush hour, I was
>overjoyed with the glorious play of light on the last storm clouds hanging
>over the hills as dawn broke.
>
>Which of Carl Ratner's writings contains the discussion you refer to?
>
>Paul H. Dillon
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ricardo Ottoni Vaz Japiassu <rjapias@uol.com.br>
>To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 6:19 AM
>Subject: Re: Bakhtin, moral answerability...
>
>
>> Judy,
>>
>> Judge your position was not the aim. I was trying to understand better
>your
>> thinking. Trying to know what you are reffering to, using the word
>EMOTION.
>>
>> I myself always use the word AFECT to reffer to EMOTIONS and FEELINGS.
>> EMOTIONS to social life in general (including nonhuman interactions) and
>> FEELINGS exclusivelly to the socio-historical culture. This,
>consequentlly,
>> makes me put myself aside Wallon's and Ratner's distinction.
>>
>>
>> -----Mensagem original-----
>> De: Judy Diamondstone <diamonju@rci.rutgers.edu>
>> Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>> Data: Domingo, 18 de Fevereiro de 2001 00:56
>> Assunto: Re: Bakhtin, moral answerability...
>>
>>
>> >Ricardo, I don't see the difference as useful, although I admit my
>> >not-seeing is not informed by the debate you refer to. I can't cut a
>clean
>> >line between biology and culture. It's a fuzzy swath of a line.
>> >
>> >What do you think?
>> >Judy
>> >
>> >
>> >>May I believe you want put yourself aside those who do not think it is
>> >>usefull such a difference between emotion and feeling?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>



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