En: Re(2): A sign forms a structural centre which determines the whole

From: Ricardo Ottoni Vaz Japiassu (rjapias@uol.com.br)
Date: Tue Jan 16 2001 - 15:19:46 PST


The concept of MONEY, as shown by the child's dissertation, is an "everyday"
one - at least to her. But the concept of VALUE, yet discussed, is a
"cientific" or "social" one.
These two concepts seem to be interconnected and interact one another in a
very complex way.
The appropiation of the concept of VALUE (re)buids the concrete or everyday
concept of MONEY that people, in generally, have. And this (re)buildding is
a process that needs an explicit pedagogical intervention by more capable
members of something like a critical capitalist culture.

-----Mensagem original-----
De: Phillip White <Phillip_White@ceo.cudenver.edu>
Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Data: Terça-feira, 16 de Janeiro de 2001 20:48
Assunto: Re(2): A sign forms a structural centre which determines the whole

> Andy scrobe:
>
>In short, in
>>childhood, the money relation exists on the periphery of her
>>world, but it is the periphery that leads to the real world, the world
>>outside of family and teachers, the world into which she will one day
>>"grow
>>up".
>>
>> i just came across an eight-year-old child's essay on the topic -
>>interesting, the topic was chosen by the child. i thought you'd be
>>interested in it.
>>
>> Money
>> One time my grandma and grandpa had 500 dollars. For my mom's Christmas
>>present she got 100 dollars. Some people are rude when they have money.
>>Some people are rich when they have money. You could get your money out
>>of the bank. You could use your savings that you have. Some people are
>>selfish when they have money. Some people have money in their account.
>>My sister has 25 cents. I do not (have) any money. My mom does not have
>>money. I like to have money a lot lot. My sister has not spent her
>>money yet. She is going to keep it for Jump Rope for Heart. I like to
>>keep money for my self.
>>
>>______
>>
>well, andy, you can see how complexly money for this child is interwoven
>through social and family relationships - which leads me to believe,
>when you ask about "how" children learn about money, that for we
>westerners, money is an attribute of every social activity. (i suppose
>that's redundant - every activity is social)
>
>phillip
>>
>>
>>* * * * * * * *
>>* *
>>
>>The English noun "identity" comes, ultimately, from the
>>Latin adverb "identidem", which means "repeatedly."
>>The Latin has exactly the same rhythm as the English,
>>buh-BUM-buh-BUM - a simple iamb, repeated; and
>>"identidem" is, in fact, nothing more than a
>>reduplication of the word "idem", "the same":
>>"idem(et)idem". "Same(and) same". The same,
>>repeated. It is a word that does exactly what
>>it means.
>>
>> from "The Elusive Embrace" by Daniel
>>Mendelsohn.
>>
>>phillip white
>>third grade teacher
>>doctoral student http://ceo.cudenver.edu/~hacms_lab/index.htm
>>scrambling a dissertation
>>denver, colorado
>>phillip_white@ceo.cudenver.edu
>



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