Re: Re(2): RE: leont'ev: externalization/internalization etc

From: Judy Diamondstone (diamonju@rci.rutgers.edu)
Date: Sun Nov 05 2000 - 12:21:38 PST


Another misstatement:

>Ideologies are assumed to be coherent by the individuals who speak/act
>them; their contradictions are invisible.

ideologies and their contradictions are invisible. that's the point.

>
>
>At 09:21 AM 11/5/00 -0800, you wrote:
>>Diane,
>> What do you mean ideologies are coherent? If you look at the right wing
>>ideology in the US it's full of contradictions. They profess devotion to
>>life including the embryo yet support the promotion of gun sales which kill
>>people; they support individual freedom yet interfere w. the personal and
>>political lives of people; they support family values and favor the free
>>market that is destroying these.
>> Carl Ratner
>>--
>>Carl Ratner, Ph.D.
>>cr2@humboldt1.com
>>http://www.humboldt1.com/~cr2
>>
>>P.O.B. 1294
>>Trinidad, CA 95570
>>USA
>>
>>> From: dhodges@ceo.cudenver.edu (Diane Hodges)
>>> Reply-To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 09:32:24 -0700
>>> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>> Subject: Re(2): RE: leont'ev: externalization/internalization etc
>>> Resent-From: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>>> Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 08:33:37 -0800 (PST)
>>>
>>> Judy Judy offers -
>>>> What I had in mind was that ideologies are coherent; activity systems are
>>>> by definition riven with contradictions that unsettle the terms in which
>>>> they're known -- so while ideologies are always in play, within the
>>>> activity system that is subjected to an activity theory analysis, the
>>>> contradictions that emerge in the course of "moving ahead" override/
>>>> challenge/ test whatever system of belief might otherwise sustain the
>>>> status quo. Since I have never done an analysis on a system wider than
the
>>>> classroom, and I haven't used AT as a mean of intervention, I am
>>>> projecting/ speculating about how it would, really, work.
>>>
>>> prompting me, from the grave, to ask of the others here: has anyone done
>>> the kind of research Judy is speaking about? perhaps some pragmatic
>>> experience would be of use here - not a reference to "other" articles, but
>>> a personal account of how AT might be used in ways that test/challenge
>>> dominant beliefs systems?
>>> diane
>>> **********************************************************************
>>> :point where everything listens.
>>> and i slow down, learning how to
>>> enter - implicate and unspoken (still) heart-of-the-world.
>>>
>>> (Daphne Marlatt, "Coming to you")
>>> ***********************************************************************
>>>
>>> diane celia hodges
>>>
>>> university of british columbia, centre for the study of curriculum and
>>> instruction
>>> ==================== ==================== =======================
>>> university of colorado, denver, school of education
>>>
>>> Diane_Hodges@ceo.cudenver.edu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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