There is a famous saying that is running through my head cuz i can't find
the specific citation, and I am using it in a review:
something like
with the advent of Behaviorism, Psychology "lost its mind"....
1. Who said this? (was it Charles Judd???)
2. When/reference???
thanks, and wish i could send you a million for the right answer,
mary
-- Dr. Mary Bryson, Associate Professor, Education, UBC GenTech Project http://www.shecan.com Digital Studio Project: http://www.digital-studio.org Curriculum Vitae http://www.educ.ubc.ca/faculty/bryson/cv.htmlIn societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation of "spectacles". Everything that was directly lived has moved away into representation. - Guy Debord, "The Society of the Spectacle" c 1967
---------- >From: "Nate Schmolze" <nate_schmolze@yahoo.com> >To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> >Subject: RE: >Date: Wed, Sep 13, 2000, 3:44 AM >
> Yes, your right. The very end of the book. You may now proceed to level 2. > (kidding of course) > > The quote by Mikhailov had a nice ring to it for me. I would like to, > although I'm sure there would be resistence - to somehow situate it with > Ilyenkov's ideal. It seems to me "delimiting" the ideal to logical forms > may just be to limiting. Davydov development of Ilyenkov who he sees as > very important to the development of AT does not seem to delimit it to such > an extent. The ideal being this formation object-action-word-action-object > seems a little broader than how its been currently interpreted. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul H.Dillon [mailto:illonph@pacbell.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 10:36 PM > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu > Subject: Re: > > > Nate, > > That passage sounded incredibly like something from Mikhailov's "Riddle of > the Self" but I couldn't locate it quickly. Where did you draw it from or > is it your own statement? > > Paul H. Dillon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nate Schmolze <nate_schmolze@yahoo.com> > To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 5:27 PM > > >> " Now even in the most complex actions I am able to be my own critic > mainly >> because the sum total of historically completed actions lives in me, >> objectively unfolded in the language of my people. Besides my friends and >> tutors, my teachers and professors, I have constant interlocutors, critics >> and helpers in those who throughout the centuries posed and solved the > most >> serious and difficult riddles of existence, who in themselves, in their >> works personally experienced the problems of their time and argued with > the >> time, and with me, a representative of another culture that is still the >> same, continuing culture of humankind. And I together with them, in >> disputation with them, take part (even if I discover only for myself) in > the >> discovery of great ideas, ideals and evaluations. In myself I relive anew >> the clash of the notions of good and evil, beauty and happiness, truth and >> aim. They are born again in me and perhaps in some way they are new.... > And >> now I myself on the basis of my own experience, assessing my own actions, >> know that thinking is not description, not the reproduction of that which > is >> given in the imagination, of that what I find in the spatial field of >> experience. Thinking is my movement, the movement of my knowledge in time. >> And this movement in time is possible because the different voices of >> different times, peoples, epochs and cultures constantly come to life in > my >> life. Teaching someone to think does, in fact, mean involving him in > active, >> objective intercourse, bringing human history into his life, teaching him > to >> feel, rejoice and suffer, to protest and admire, to know and thus to carry >> in himself a whole world in all its integrity as the known, conscious > world >> of our life. This is the only way to awaken the doer and the critic, the >> craftsman and the artist in a person. So now my different Selves live even >> in my dreams, arguing with each other, assuming the shape of other people >> including people that have never existed in this world. They argue, > imagine, >> act and even solve problems with which I and they wrestled during my > waking >> hours. But sometimes, just because in a dream they are not restrained by > the >> clear knowledge "That can't happen" , they are able to find something that >> really never did happen but that today I simply cannot do without" . >> >
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