Re: Re(2): III Sociocultural Conference

From: Paul H.Dillon (illonph@pacbell.net)
Date: Tue Aug 01 2000 - 14:59:19 PDT


King,

Right on!

Paul

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From: King Beach <kdbeach@pilot.msu.edu>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Re(2): III Sociocultural Conference

> Phillip and Paul,
>
> I think the concept that Nagarjuna's verse refers has been translated as
> "dependent origination," in which causation is the result of relations or
> correlations rather than the various Aristotelian forms of causation
> (material, efficient, formal, and other other that I can't remember).
> Essentially there is no agent-action distinction in dependent origination,
> and agency is vested in the relation as it develops. Thus persons and
> social organizations bring each other forth. This does have some
> interesting implications for what might be appropriate units of
analysis...
>
> --King
>
> >Phillip,
> >
> >Your selection of the Buddha's verses to Vasettha brought to mind
Nargjuna's
> >section on "Agent and Action" which you might find of interest, if you
don't
> >know it already. I think the point of the buddhist teaching on this
being
> >that neither agent or action cannot be understood separately. Consider:
> >
> > "Action depends upon the agent.
> > The agent itself depends on the action.
> > One cannot see any way
> > To establish them differently.
> >
> > "From this elimination of agent and action,
> > One should elucidate appropriation in the same way.
> > Through action and agent
> > All remaining things should be understood."
> >
> > - Mulamadyamakakarika, Ch. 8, 12-13.
> >
> >My personal interest here being the self-annihilating dialectic of the
> >buddhist teaching (dialectic of sunyata/emptiness) vs. the
> >self-transcending/self-anihilating dialectic of the Hegelian tradition
> >(aufhebung). Perhaps found in the contrasted understanding of sangha v.
> >community/society??
> >
> >Paul H. Dillon
>
>
>
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