Dialectical bagels

From: Bruce Robinson (bruce.rob@btinternet.com)
Date: Fri Jun 23 2000 - 04:25:44 PDT


On Wednesday, June 21, 2000 5:17 PM, Diane Hodges
[SMTP:dhodges@ceo.cudenver.edu] wrote:
> well, i tried to think of an "object" for Hegel
> but all I could think of was poppyseed bagels,
> so I ate 'em.
>
> used the crumbs with some "dough" and made the "upper crust" look real
> good.
> > long live chaos and the surreal.
> diane

This is not as surreal as it appears - bagels are profoundly dialectical.
Bill Livant uses Hegel's bagels as a theme for one of his humourous
articles designed to introduce his students to dialectics. It is entitled
'The hole in Hegel's bagel'. It starts:

1. Hegel's great insight is that the truth is the whole.
2. What about the hole? Is the hole part of the whole?
3. On first sight, it appears that it isn't, that in the hole there is
nothing. But this is deceptive.

[snip]

8. How does one get to the hole in the center of the bagel? Only be eating
your way through, by moving. But if your mind can't walk, can't move, yu
can't get there. And if you can't get there, there seems to be nothing
there. Appearances seem to be all there is.

9. Only by analyzing - getting into and going beyond - appearances can we
arrive at the essence of anything.

10. In sum, the whole without a hole is really a part in drag trying to
pass itself off as everything, which, come to think of it, isn't a bad
definition of ideology.

I've been meaning to get into this whole discussion, but haven't had time.
Hope to wing a fifteen-part commentary on everything your way soon ;-).

Bruce Robinson

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> diane celia hodges
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