Re: RE: peter's april discussion paper

From: Dewey Dykstra, Jr. (dykstrad@email.boisestate.edu)
Date: Fri Apr 14 2000 - 07:49:35 PDT


>This is what I have been thinking about 'knowledge' too. It is remade
>through knowing in a situated activity. Otherwise - whether 'stored' in
>memory or in a printed text - it is inert and of little use. On this
>basis, I would argue that the efforts of educational institutions to get
>students to amass knowledge (in preparation for showing how much they've
>acquired when responding to test questions) is missing the point. Both
>'knowing' and 'meaning' are mediated actions performed for some purpose by
>specific individuals with other individuals in a situated activity. The
>artifacts produced in the process - said to 'contain' knowledge and
>meanings - only come alive when they mediate some further action in a
>similar or different activity system.
>What d'you think?
>
>Gordon Wells
>OISE/University of Toronto

Gordon,

While we would probably both agree that the effort "to get students to
amass knowledge" is but one of several "missed points" (putting it mildly)
on the part of the educational establishment, I agree strongly with your
distinction between 'stored' knowledge and knowing and meaning--and the
particular point that the schools miss. Now maybe it's because I do not
know activity theory, but there's something I'm missing about your
statement above. Once meaning/knowing has been constructed in a situation,
it seems to me that the knowledge is both 'stored' *and* is tied to a
meaning or knowing for the knower. So, I'm not perfectly sure what you
mean by to "come alive." It seems to me that one can re-present this
stored knowledge to oneself and invoke the meaning or knowing of it for
oneself, hence to me this meaning or knowing does not need to "mediate some
further action." ...or is it the case that re-presentation is another
"similar or different activity system?"

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Dewey

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