Re: drive-thru education (not)

Eva Ekeblad (eva.ekeblad who-is-at ped.gu.se)
Thu, 26 Nov 1998 07:23:03 +0100 (MET)

Yeah, looks like we could do another hands-up round on that one.

On the other hand, my blurt was more theoretically than educationally meant.

Eva

At 18.29 -0600 98-11-25, nate wrote:
>No, Phil I think you are pretty well on track. We in the U.S,
>at least in the progressive (haha) state of Wisconsin are
>continually using corporate models or language in the spirit of
>educational reform. The argument is we as educators need to
>look at students as clients and such. There seems to be some
>sort of de-evolution all over. Traditional forms of assistance
>to the poor is continually being abandoned. There certainly
>seems to be a paradigmn shift ocurring and it isn't very nice.
>It just brings Dewey up all over again with his warnings of the
>industrial revolution and the corporate models of education in
>his time. Don't worry its not you, but the world that is going
>crazy.
>
>Nate
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Phil Graham <pw.graham who-is-at student.qut.edu.au>
>To: xmca who-is-at weber.ucsd.edu <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
>Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 6:05 PM
>Subject: Re: drive-thru education (not)
>
>
>>At 15:57 25-11-98 +0100, Eva wrote:
>>>At 21.38 +1100 98-11-25, Phil Graham wrote:
>>>>heaps of stuff written about commodified education
>>>
>>>As I haven't read those heaps, I suddenly wonder if it says
>anything that
>>>reflects back to the economic perspective of an eternal chain
>of exchange
>>>values, where consumption is just the withdrawal of an
>exchange value from
>>>the circulation, a vanishing. Forgetting the real-ization of
>the use value.
>>>Which is where the neutral equivalues may, when unpacked
>(unpredictably)
>>>convert in divergences towards opposites of construction and
>destruction.
>>>Not at all a vanishing, but something borh risky and
>potentially
>>>productive... The educational context made me think...
>>
>>I hope, then, that things are different where you are. Here,
>our education
>>system is in a state of deterioration because of its
>increasingly
>>corporate-values orientation and corporate-oriented curricula.
>>
>>Other Aussies on the list might well disagree with me. If so,
>I'd love to
>>hear about positive developments to the contrary anywhere else
>in our fine
>>country.
>>
>>Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Phil Graham
>>pw.graham who-is-at student.qut.edu.au
>>http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/8314/index.html
>>