Re: reduction, isolation, action

James Wertsch (jwertsch who-is-at artsci.wustl.edu)
Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:08:52 -0500 (CDT)

This is an interesting distinction between isolationism and reductionism.
Perhaps we should accept the former while continuing to resist the latter?

Jim

On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Bill Barowy wrote:

> John's insights into emergent properties and dynamics of the complex system
> in relation to 'unit of analysis' helped me gather enough courage to look
> at chapter 2 of Mind as Action. My reaction to what I am finding there is
> delight with some reconciliation of my own struggles and further
> understanding of action as the unit of analysis.
>
> At first read, the quote by Vygotsky about water being irreducible to
> hydrogen and oxygen struck a sour note with me. I wanted to edit the last
> line to read 'He will never succeed in explaining the characteristics of
> the whole by [only] analyzing the characteristics of its elements."
> because of course it helps to know that water is composed of hydrogen and
> oxygen and this does make all the difference in the world - it is water not
> carbon dioxide for example, which is what you would get if you combined
> carbon and oxygen. I wanted to add "and he would not succeed unless he
> also analyzes its elements", but who am i to criticize publically and
> sociall the words of Vygotsky or Wertsch? Especially because one author is
> present?
>
> Well, semiosis be damned unless I can. :-) Vygotsky most likely did not
> know of the process of molecular 'building up' - starting with a
> description of isolated atoms and watching their structures gradually
> transform, in response to each other, as one (analytically) brings them
> together, until finally they make up each other as the molecule, with a new
> structure and continuous degrees of difference in structure, from those
> *practically* isolable to individual atoms and those completely considered
> molecule and indivisible.
>
> Jim introduces 'isolation' which allows the process I am interested in
> preserving, and does not carry the end-of-the-line sense that 'reduction'
> does. Isolation becomes viable because it is like what Catalina Laserna
> calls 'zooming in' - you focus more tightly for a while, always with the
> perspective in mind that this is a piece of a bigger picture. So with
> this, I will continue to think about the 'building up' of complex dynamics,
> tentatively termed action, in the modeling I am doing, and must get back
> to, and also revisit another method, thought-experiment, which may be also
> isolationist in nature, I now realize, not reductionist.
>
>
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> and watch yourself softly become the author of something beautiful."
> [Norman Maclean in "A river runs through it."]
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