Re:Individual and Community Analyses

Peter Smagorinsky (psmagorinsky who-is-at ou.edu)
Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:33:06

A friend of mine who teaches quant methods courses always bristles at
assumptions about quantitative studies, because he's involved in the field
of exploratory data analysis, which he always anchors to Tukey. There are
ways to go about research through the use of numeric symbols, and do so
without positivistic baggage.

Peter

At 06:08 PM 11/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Thanks for the responses to and comments on my message on writing
>narrative. I'm dividing my responses in 2 messages, this one on narrative,
>the other on Michigan.
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>Lenora de la Luna wrote:
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>>I am not sure if I am reading your post correctly, but it seems to me that
>>you have placed a sharp division between "narrative" and "quantitative
>>analysis." I wonder, though, if these are appropriate
>>comparisons. It sounds as if you are comparing a final product (a
>>narrative) with an analysis (quantitative).
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>...and I think this is quite right; I glossed over a distinction here. But
>I think the point I was trying to make stands. Not too long ago I
>co-taught a course on Integrated Research Methods, where we examined
>quantitative and qualitative methods of analysis, and set these within
>discussion of interpretive and empirical-analytic research paradigms. I
>came to think that it's very tough to do a quantitative analysis that
>doesn't take for granted many of the assumptions about knowledge and
>reality of the second of these two paradigms; assumptions which I don't
>share. I think this is certainly true of quantitative "explanatory"
>analysis; perhaps less true of "descriptive" analysis.
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>And diane says:
>
>>theory is good. theory is thinking. it's ideas. everyone has ideas.
>>everyone has theories.
>>only some of us get paid to read and write about theories: but this ought
not
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>It's probably dangerous to generalize too much about something as complex
>and varying as "theory," but, thinking of Harold Garfinkel, I'll make the
>claim that theoretical discourse aims to make claims that are
>non-indexical; that's to say, require no reference to time, to place, or to
>speaker to be understood. When we're dealing with human actions and
>events, such statements strike me as leaving the meat behind. Leaving the
>culture behind. Leaving the human behind. And (another pot-shot at
>quantitative analysis-sorry, David, nothing personal. I respect the
>intelligence and integrity of most people who do such work)
>quantitification excises the indexical so early on, at the coding or
>categorization stage, that we hardly notice.
>
>I think Randy is on the same track when he writes:
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>>And I have read some research that is
>>structured as narrative that I thought would have been more clearly
structured
>>categorically, especially since the balance of expository and narrative
tipped
>>toward the expository, the outside-of-time, the always-true. (I don't
>>know why
>>they chose narrative, except as an academic statement of affiliation -
>>something else that's always true of genres.)
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>The structure of narrative is one that makes use of temporality; drawing
>the reader into events unfolding in time, and so conveying the
>open-endedness of life and history. A narrative doesn't make claims that
>are true for all time, but aims to capture, to invoke a time and place (as
>Musil invokes Vienna at the turn of the century-thanks, Randy!); it's left
>up to the reader to figure out the relevance to *their* time and place.
>
>But both these points just scratch the surface of complex issues.
>
>(By the way when Lenora asks:
>
>>But what happens when the people you've worked with say, "where the hell
>>did you get _that_ from? you've got it all wrong. . . ." For me, this is
>>where much of the interesting stuff takes place.
>
>I agree whole-heartedly.)
>
>Martin
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