While I was reading your message I remembered two happenings=20
with animals:
The first one was a cd-room video from an african videomaker that shows=20
an african candombl=E9 cerimony in whicth a horse "dances" to the orix=E1=
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oxossi, doing the same movements that a son of saint does when he/she is=20
"horse" of an orix=E1.
I listened in a TV news program, many years ago, that a dog had saved=20
his owner from the death wetting his mouth with a piece of cloth. Maybe=20
in Europe or North America... I'm not sure at all.
Judy Diamondstone wrote:
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> This is part one of a 3-part response to Jay's last message, addressing
> other messages in the thread too...
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> >The Other does not have to be more-knowledgeable, we can learn from
> >infants, dogs, and hot radiators ... but are we learning in the same s=
ense,
> >in the same way, as with the more-knowledgeable partner? and what is t=
he
> >nature of this knowledge? suppose it is not consciously held, but taci=
t
> >knowledge: someone can show us what they do, but not tell us how they =
do it
> >... we can still learn from tacit knowers, but somewhat differently, a=
nd
> >they still seem to me to fit the ZPD model -- but learning from infant=
s,
> >dogs, and hot radiators does not fit the model at all. What do you thi=
nk?
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> I could derive explicit understandings from interaction with my
> dog (Mush), as I have from sitting across the cut-bank of a river,
> or watching ice floes move in the midnight sun, etc. It's interesting
> that I think of Alaska [minus the people] to conjure zpd's with Others
> whose knowledge about a cultural project can not be said to be
> more than my own. But in each of the cases I mentioned above,
> the interaction from which I _formulate_ my knowledge (about
> relationship; about time; whatever) takes place through internal
> dialog. So where's the zpd? Where it always is.... constituted
> at the intersection of history & environment? time and place?
> then & now? Is more than one speaking history necessary
> for a zpd? More than one version of a cultural project?
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