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[Xmca-l] Re: Ilyenkov, Marx, & Spinoza



Larry, when you say "Action IS individual," did you mention to say that *actions* - the individual units of *action* are individual? In which can it is of course a tautology. But *action* is irreducibly *social*, and so is every "individual" action. Or better, so is every "singular" action.

A lot of relevant differences are coded in the English language by the use of the count-noun or mass noun form, but on the whole the set of words (action, actions, activity, activities) and the set of words (practice, practices) have no systematic difference running across all disciplines and schools of thought. For us CHATters, "activities" are practices.

If you read Hegel and Marx, there is an added issue: the German words for action (Handlung) and activity (Tatigkeit) are more or less inverted for Hegel, and he doesn't use Aktivitat at all.

Andy

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Andy Blunden
http://home.mira.net/~andy
http://www.brill.com/products/book/origins-collective-decision-making
On 24/07/2017 11:42 PM, Larry Purss wrote:
Alexander, Mike,
Thanks for the article.
Moving to page 51 I noticed that when referencing Bernstein he contrasted (action) with (practice) and did not REPEAT (identity) the thesis about the role of practice in knowing).
Two formulas:
• Knowing THROUGH ‘action’
• Verification of knowing THROUGH ‘practice’

These two formulas closely RESEMBLE each other but do not co-incide

Action IS individual
Practice IS a social category.

Sociohistorical (practice) in the final analysis is nothing other than the SUM total of the actions of individual who are separate.

Individual action is LIKE a single experiment.  They are alike in that both individual action & a single experiment are poorly suited to the role of :

A philosophical criterion of (truth).

I do not have the background to intelligently comment, but did register this theme as provocative FOR further thought and wording.
And for generating intelligent commentary




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From: Ivan Uemlianin
Sent: July 20, 2017 11:17 AM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Cc: Alexander Surmava
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Ilyenkov, Marx, & Spinoza

Yes very interesting thank you! (Ilyenkov fan)

Ivan

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festina lente


On 20 Jul 2017, at 18:00, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:

This article might prove of interest to those who have been discussing
LSV's sources in
marx and spinoza.
mike
<Ilyenkov_and_the_Revolution_in_Psycholog.pdf>