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[Xmca-l] Re: Gunilla's 1996 paper



I am wondering also if another way to phrase an alternative understanding
to that of Leontiev's is the image of moving toward, moving in a certain
direction*,* as opposed to directly modeling or emulating. That is, that
the child is experimenting with being *more *of an adult (a "head taller"),
without necessarily trying to *be *an adult or any particular adult. This
would suggest a more open-ended process of imagination, in which the
possibilities for the kind of adulthood and kind of world the child will
inhabit remain fully underdetermined.

Does anyone else see this as a possible implication of Lindqvist's reading?

Chris

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:53 PM, <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Beth,
> This most recent article fleshes out and makes distinct Gunilla’s
> contribution to re-interpreting Vygotsky and moving away from Leontiev who
> believes children are modelling themselves on adults.  i will quote a
> paragraph from page 930 of your and Monica’s article that should give pause
> as we move around and through this topic of playworlds :
>
> Of central importance to Lindqvist’s (1995, p. 50) theory of play is her
> positioning of herself in opposition to Leontiev, whom she characterizes as
> believing that adult roles are what children plat at, as believing that
> children’s ‘play faces the future’ because children in play are MODELING
> themselves on adults.  She explains that Leontiev thinks of play as
> REPRODUCTION of roles in an adult world, not as PRODUCTIVE.  Here Lindqvist
> is arguing that children are, often, modeling themselves on adults in play,
> but that play faces a future that will be created, in part, by those who
> are now children, and that will be created within some constraints that
> those who are now adults cannot even imagine.
> Lindqvist’s contribution to play theory derives in part from her ability
> to interpret Vygotsky’s work from outside the cultural, historical, and
> political context in which it was created.
>
>
> I offer this paragraph because when I read the above quote in which the
> semantic ‘()’ challenges what in particular children are modelling (i.e.
> adults) this leaves open the centrality of the modelling process itself as
> the focus and not being *an adult*.
>
> When Gunilla introduces *fear* figuratively AS the person under the bed, a
> modelling process is presented in a shared world  but that modelling  is
> not  focusing on being *an adult*.
> Now the modelling process can be *an adult* or the modelling process can
> be *fear*.
>
> Each are particular  instances of this modelling process. The modelling
> becomes the central focus. If we treat ‘adult’ as real and ‘fear’ as
> pretend and draw a RIGID boundary ‘marker’ between modelling (an adult) and
> modelling (fear) as two opposite phenomena, we seem to loose the actual
> phenomena of modelling and its centrality.
>
> When *fear* is actualized as a person and *an adult* is actualized as a
> person, children can model either within a dramatic ‘()’.
>
> This phenomena has many sides in the way Merleau Ponty images ‘sides’ or
> aspects. For example if we face  the forward or side of something we
> imagine the back ‘side’ and move to verify this in space. It seems *fear*
> and *an adult* as somethings offer faces in the cloud that are examples of
> modelling phenomena. This no longer privileges *an adult* as more central
> than *fear* as phenomena modelled.
> Or so it seems?
>
>
>
> Sent from my Windows 10 phone
>
> From: Beth Ferholt
> Sent: February 8, 2017 8:48 AM
> To: laure.kloetzer@gmail.com; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Gunilla's 1996 paper
>
> Let Monica and I know if there are others you are looking for, Laura, and
> maybe this is helpful? She wrote several things that should be read more
> than they are! Or more should be translated... Beth
>
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Laure Kloetzer <laure.kloetzer@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Brian,
> >
> > Thank you so much for sharing ! Very interesting for me indeed.
> >
> > I decided to work on play with my students this semester as it is a
> > wonderful and engaging entry into a lot of fascinating dimensions of
> > learning & culture. I also plan to make them work on classical works by
> > Piaget and Vygotsky, and help them test the hypotheses of these authors
> on
> > real observations of play.
> >
> > Best,
> > LK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-02-07 19:05 GMT+01:00 Edmiston, Brian W. <edmiston.1@osu.edu>:
> >
> > > Thanks so much, Alfredo
> > >
> > > Laure, you might be interested in this chapter of mine in which I build
> > on
> > > Lindqvist’s work
> > > It's coming out in the new Routledge Handbook of Early Childhood Play
> > > (I know Beth has a chapter in there too)
> > >
> > > Brian Edmiston
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 7 Feb 2017, at 11:37 am, Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I see. Here is the article! I think this time is right.
> > > >
> > > > Alfredo
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.
> edu
> > >
> > > on behalf of Alfredo Jornet Gil <a.j.gil@iped.uio.no>
> > > > Sent: 07 February 2017 17:18
> > > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity; laure.kloetzer@gmail.com
> > > > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Gunilla's 1996 paper
> > > >
> > > > Hi Laure,
> > > >
> > > > I find this online. not the best copy, but one available. See if you
> > can
> > > download it (it's 3MB big, can make it smaller and share if you could
> not
> > > download)
> > > > http://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED396824.pdf
> > > > Hope it helps,
> > > > Alfredo
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.
> edu
> > >
> > > on behalf of Laure Kloetzer <laure.kloetzer@gmail.com>
> > > > Sent: 07 February 2017 17:01
> > > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > > > Subject: [Xmca-l]  Gunilla's 1996 paper
> > > >
> > > > Dear colleagues,
> > > >
> > > > After a desperate search for Gunilla's classical paper in my Swiss
> > > > libraries, I am asking the community for some help. Would one of you
> > > have a
> > > > pdf copy of:
> > > >
> > > > Lindqvist, G. (1996). The aesthetics of play. A didactic study of
> play
> > > and
> > > > culture in preschools. *Early Years*, *17*(1), 6-11.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot for your help !
> > > > Best regards
> > > > LK
> > > > <Linqvist 1996 The aesthetics of play Early years.pdf>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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> Department of Early Childhood and Art Education
> Brooklyn College, City University of New York
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>
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