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[Xmca-l] Re: Fate of a Man



I think there's a good reason why Andy started a new thread on this: he's a
very tidy thinker (quite unlike yours truly) and he knows that one reason
why xmca threads are seldom cumulative is that they digress to related
problems without solving the immmediate ones.

Yes, of course, a film allows us to consider an example of "perezhivanie",
but it is a designed perezhivanie rather than an evolved one; it doesn't
explicitly display the various stages of emergence required for a genetic
analysis, unless we analyze it not as a complete and finished work of art
but instead for clues as to the stages of its creation (the way that, for
example, "Quietly Flows the Don" was analyzed to determine its
authenticity).

I remember that In the original short story, the schnapps drinking
scene seemed like pure sleight of hand: an artistically gratuitous example
of what eventually gave Soviet social realism such a bad name.

David Kellogg
Macquarie University

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:04 PM, Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Fellow XMCa-ers
>
> I have watched it through now, thank you Andy, but right now only empirical
> psychological categories come to mind.  I will watch it again and in the
> meanwhile let my fellows with more recent experience of /perezhivanie/ take
> the discussion further.
>
> It is a kind of timeless story, and modern film techniques would perhaps be
> more explicit. At the least I would say it has for me a Russian
> understanding of suffering, perhaps because of their unique experience of
> it. But having said that, WWII must have generated other similar
> experiences, apart from the first part about Andrei's family dying in the
> famine.
>
> Carol
>
> On 14 January 2017 at 02:15, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
>
> > I watched it in two parts with subtitles:
> >
> > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16w7fg_destiny-of-a-man-
> > 1959-pt-1_creation
> > http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x16wat4_destiny-of-a-man-
> > 1959-pt-2_creation
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Andy Blunden
> > http://home.mira.net/~andy
> > http://www.brill.com/products/book/origins-collective-decision-making
> > On 14/01/2017 2:35 AM, Beth Ferholt wrote:
> >
> >> > >Thank you for taking us to a shared example.  I think that having a
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Carol A Macdonald Ph.D (Edin)
> Cultural Historical Activity Theory
> Honorary Research Fellow: Department of Linguistics, Unisa
> alternative email address: tmacdoca@unisa.ac.za
>