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[Xmca-l] Re: Time for a Generational Change



Dear Mike,

Thank you for such a wonderful period of my adult life - as Anne-Nelly
said, more than 30 years!!! I hardly even got a computer in the 80s when I
discovered you and your pioneering listserve XMCA!  It gave me a community
and provoked me to think and to discuss issues for a long time, and to
always stay a lurker!
You created a spirit of true scholarship among so many people over such a
long time. I especially appreciate the sense of being welcomed and
recognized that you created for me and for everyone else.

I want to also welcome Alfredo with a big applause! This is a difficult but
incredibly gratifying role!

Mike, thank you for so many years of intellectual provocation and
stimulation!

Ana

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:37 PM PERRET-CLERMONT Anne-Nelly <
Anne-Nelly.Perret-Clermont@unine.ch> wrote:

> Hi Mike again-
> good all days…Let’s keep remembering the best part of them . And let's
> continue to open side tracks to overcome obstacles, as you did.
>
> Sorry to see that Springer has closed the link. Thank you for letting me
> know.I attach here our introduction to the issue. And I’ll be happy to
> forward the chapters (one or all), if asked to.
>
> Best greetings
> Anne-Nelly
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of mike cole
> <mcole@ucsd.edu>
> Répondre à : "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> Date : lundi, 24 octobre 2016 21:27
> À : "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> Objet : [Xmca-l] Re: Time for a Generational Change
>
> Hi Anne-Nelly --
>
> The nice thing about the newsletter was that we did not have to put up with
> reviewing hassles of the sort discussed on xmca a few days ago. But of
> course, it didn't count for careers, so Yrjo pushed us into formal
> publications. Ah, for the good old days!  :-))
>
> I tried to reach the Springer article by when I clicked on that link, it
> told me that I could pay 39+$ to read it! Lets hope my library can do
> better.
>
> mike
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 12:07 PM, PERRET-CLERMONT Anne-Nelly <
> Anne-Nelly.Perret-Clermont@unine.ch> wrote:
>
> > Dear Mike,
> > For an incredible number of years (34?), I have enjoyed following your
> > impulses, seeing growing the network that you created around The
> >Quarterly
> > Newsletter of the Laboratory of Comparative Human Cognition; then came
> > your creative socio-technical innovations (yours was the first electronic
> > list that I have ever been affiliated to); and MCA, XMCA, etc.
> > Many many thanks Mike.
> >
> > Amitiés,
> > Anne-Nelly
> >
> >
> > Prof. em. Anne-Nelly Perret-Clermont
> > Institut de psychologie et éducation Faculté des lettres et sciences
> > humaines
> > Université de Neuchâtel
> > Espace L. Agassiz 1,  CH- 2000 Neuchâtel (Switzerland)
> > http://www2.unine.ch/ipe/publications/anne_nelly_perret_clermont
> >
> > New
> > publication: "Educational settings as interwoven socio-material
> > orderings”.Springerhas just offered open access to our recent special
> > issue of the European Journal of Psychology of Education - you are
> >welcome
> > to take a look & share thislink with colleagues & students:
> > http://link.springer.com/journal/10212/31/1/page/1?wt_
> > mc=10.CON434.SI_Edu_E
> > UPE
> >
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of mike cole
> > <mcole@ucsd.edu>
> > Répondre à : "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> >
> > Date : lundi, 24 octobre 2016 19:35
> > À : "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>,
> > "lchc-l@mailman.ucsd.edu" <lchc-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> > Objet : [Xmca-l]  Time for a Generational Change
> >
> > Hear Yee XMCA -O-Phytes.
> >
> >
> >
> > Having removed myself from the active faculty of LCHC which is now in the
> > capable hands of Angela Booker and Stephan Tanaka, the time has come for
> >me
> > to step back from the doings of MCA and XMCA.  At MCA the new editorial
> > team of (in reverse alphabetical order, Jennifer Vadeboncoeur, Bonnie
> > Nardi, Victor Kaptelinin, and Natalia Gajdamashko) has taken over as
> > editors, and begun the process of carrying the enterprise into a new
> > generation. I will remain as a kind of "editor for special projects" for
> > the journal and will continue to participate in XMCA.
> >
> >
> >
> > But with respect to XMCA it is past time for me to give up what David
> > Kellogg has called my "pastoral" role in seeking to coordinate and
> >develop
> > discourse focused around provocative articles that appear in the journal.
> > The original idea was to provide authors with rapid feedback and public
> > recognition instead of having to wait the 2-3 year cycle of replying via
> >an
> > authorized journal.
> >
> >
> >
> > The reality, as you know, is somewhat different - a mélange of topics
> >that
> > intersect, loop back on themselves, and leak out into the semiosphere.
> >
> >
> >
> > Luckily, Alfredo Jornet has offered to try his hand at the pastoral role,
> > and will be recognized on the journal masthead as *MCA Forum Mediator*.
> > Alfredo brings to the task his early career in Spain, his later career in
> > Norway, and his present career in Victoria. And all of this international
> > experience before has started "his career." Brave soul. Alfredo and the
> > editors are considering a variety of options for the future of the
> >journal,
> > including importantly, its status as a new medium promoting rapid
> >exchange
> > of the news between otherwise isolated scholars with complementary
> > interests.
> >
> >
> >
> > My participation in xlchc and then xmca has been central to my adult
> > education, and I appreciate what I have learned here more than words can
> > suffice to explain. There are not so many academic ecologies in the
> >world,
> > so enduring those that do spring up seems a worthwhile way to promote its
> > reproduction.... keeping in mind Phillip White's reminder that the future
> > of development is not predictable at the level of everyday experience.
> >
> >
> >
> > As I see it, there are two major failures in this effort over the years.
> > The first is the enormous imbalance in the gender representation of the
> > participants. With a few periods where the exceptions ended up proving
> >the
> > rule, female voices have been conspicuously absent. Academic "guy talk"
> >has
> > dominated. Understanding and, if possible, re-mediating that sad set of
> > circumstances seems like a major task for the future.
> >
> >
> >
> > Second, MCA discourse does not accumulate. The discussions are more like
> > chaining than the development of new concepts. As in the Sakharov -
> > Vygotsky blocks experiment, we talk about green triangles then blue
> > triangles then blue squares, each a legitimate line of inquiry, but
> > constantly changing criteria/topics as we go. Every once in a while we
> > ascend to the level of pseudo-concepts (these are the cases that evoke
> >the
> > most controversy it seems to me). My fond hope is that Alfredo and our
> > sometimes engaged tech gurus will provide a more supportive environment
> >for
> > the creation of "truce concepts" -- agreement on a broad set of
> > principles/empirical embodiments and a research program that identifies
> >the
> > limits of the theory and the most fruitful lines of inquiry.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thus spake
> >
> > mike
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
*Ana Marjanovic-Shane*
Dialogic Pedagogy Journal, Editor (dpj.pitt.edu)
Chestnut Hill College, Associate Professor of Education
e-mails: shaneam@chc.edu
              anamshane@gmail.com
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