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[Xmca-l] Re: "English" as a school subject



Hi Francis,

Yes - Irish is doing ok.  My Irish is poor but my daughter is fluent.  She,
and many people her age (she's a teenager), go to Irish language schools
and that, in my view, has given the language a real boost.

Stephen

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 6:52 PM, FRANCIS J. SULLIVAN <fsulliva@temple.edu>
wrote:

> And isn't it also true that "Irish" (Is that the same as "Gaelic"? What are
> the differences?) has mad a real comeback as a spoken language among Irish
> citizens?
>
> Francis J. Sullivan, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor
> Department of Teaching and Learning
> College of Education
> Temple University
> Philadelphia, PA 19122
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Stephen Walsh <stephenwals@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > HI Peter,
> > e
> > In Ireland all schoolchildren study 'Irish'.  It is compulsory form the
> > beginning of primary education to the end of secondary education.  If it
> > would be helpful to have more detail I can put some more info together
> for
> > you.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Stephen
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, I'm writing mainly to my colleagues who are familiar with public
> > > school, pre-university (what we call K-12 in the US) education systems,
> > > with a question.
> > >
> > > In English-speaking nations, there is a school subject called "English"
> > > that involves the study of literature (much from English-speaking
> > authors,
> > > rather than "world literature" which may have its own separate course),
> > > writing (or now, multimodal composing), and language study (of the
> > English
> > > language, often in the form of grammar instruction). This subject is
> not
> > > ESL, EFL, TESOL, or other way of describing learning the language of
> > > English by speakers of other languages.
> > >
> > > My question: I know that in Russia there are school subjects of Russian
> > > literature and language; in the Netherlands there is the following:
> > > The Study Dutch Language & Literature (Dutch: Nederlandse Taal- en
> > > Letterkunde) can be found at each Dutch university. Formerly you
> studied
> > > linguistics and literature, from about 1975 a third component was
> > > introduced: Taalbeheersing (Dutch for language skills, especially
> writing
> > > and argumentation). Nowadays the studies have new names, like Dutch
> > > Language and culture
> > >
> > > Do other nations dedicate a school subject to this discipline
> > (literature,
> > > writing, language study in L1 and generally nationalistic in
> curriculum)?
> > > If so, what is it called, and what does it comprise?
> > >
> > > Thx,Peter
> > >
> > >
> >
>