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Such a rich collection of connections, Christopher! Thank
you. A lot of following up to do. !
"Project" for me is very deep notwithstanding being always
Yes, flowering as well as degenerating is of interest, and
the Wire episode is certainly illustrative.
I think possibly that growing scepticism about the notion of
character may be positive for my approach.
""strong relational ontology" movement within theoretical
psych applies Aristotlean virtue ethics in the context of
community and shared obligation" almost sums up my project,
so I'll definitely follow up this group.
The project is all about how to make a better world,
Christopher. I am already locked in with a collaborator at
this stage, but I wouldn't rule it out in the future given
the evidence of your interests in this message.
On 6/07/2016 4:15 AM, Christopher Schuck wrote:
So, I am assuming you are still viewing those virtues as
equally "deep-seated" as in traditional virtue theory, but
attributes of culture/context as opposed to
character/individual? Because it might be necessary to
examine that concept of deep-seatedness itself, and how it
might change in this new frame of reference. The popular
juxtaposition with character is "situationism" a la Walter
Mischel, a somewhat watered-down version of context which
has often been assumed to be shallower or more unstable.
But your juxtaposition of project would turn this on its
head. What does it look like for a virtue to be
deep-seated within a developing project, rather than a
developing individual? It could be interesting to observe
how the very meaning of "virtue" changes with your new
paradigm, not just the implications for human activity.
Another question is whether you are only interested in
moral degeneration, or also moral degeneration/growth with
change in context. I am thinking of The Wire, Season 3,
where the experiment to legalize drugs in "Hamsterdam"
generates challenges and projects that have the effect of
making certain characters become more virtuous while
I wish I could "collaborate" with you on this project! It
feels very close to my interests....Although I am
undoubtedly more individual-centered.
If you're willing to delve into mainstream personality
psychology as it relates to *traits* not virtues, the
classic person-in-situation, cross-cultural research is a
series of studies by Mischel and Shoda. Brian Little has
written a lot about "personal projects" and how they shape
people in a way that might provide an interesting
individualistic foil to what you intend by "project". The
most large-scale investigation into moral character from
the empirical psych standpoint was recently spearheaded by
Christian Miller at Wake Forest University
<http://thecharacterproject.com>). His brand new project
is www.moralbeacons.org <http://www.moralbeacons.org>. I
should add that some of this research looks bland and
There is a lot of controversy about how to conceptualize
virtue and character in current analytic philosophy,
especially in the field of action theory and virtue
epistemology; much of this has surfaced as empirical
research in the so-called "experimental philosophy"
movement. Mark Alfano came out with a book "Character as
Moral Fiction" arguing that virtues are social constructs
that become self-fulfilling prophecies driven by future
possibility and social practices; this might interface
somewhat with your interest. There is an interdisciplinary
collection coming out in the fall edited by Iskra Fileva
titled "Questions of Character" that may hit upon relevant
Finally, the "strong relational ontology" movement within
theoretical psych applies Aristotlean virtue ethics in the
context of community and shared obligation. e.g. Brent
Slife, Frank Richardson, Blaine Fowers.
This might all be way off base from what you are looking
for, but thought I'd throw some of it out there. I could
always send specific materials on request.
On Tuesday, July 5, 2016, Andy Blunden <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Comrade and friends, I need some help.
I am setting about developing a new approach to virtue
ethics. Virtues are everywhere taken to be deep-seated
attributes of a person's character; my aim is to make
the starting point instead from virtues defined as
deep-seated attributes of a project, which you can
take to mean "social context" or "system of activity"
if you wish. I don't need advice about issues and
problems of ethics, but it is in in the nature of
virtue ethics that it always has strong implications
for psychology as well as social theory, to the extent
that I think I can make a great deal of progress by
calling on psychological data.
Can people point me to research(ers) about how a
person's character changes with social context (e.g.
home/work), any evidence of the well-known phenomenon
in which a person promoted above the ability suffers a
moral degeneration; any suitable and reliable data
about the differing character (not just preferences or
cognition, but virtues) of people from one culture or
another? or similar information about changes in a
person's character following their emigration to
URLs appreciated, or whole books, I don't have access
to a university library or JSTOR.