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[Xmca-l] Re: The value of Philosophy: xmca and the GOP



Yes, false dichotomy is troubling.
I support the part of this argument that is suggesting that welders' labor
(and the welders' themselves) should be valued just as highly as
philosopher's labor.
Notwithstanding the local (i.e. U.S.) politics, seems like there is a good
old Marxist argument buried in there about the trouble with valuing mental
over manual labor, no?
-greg



On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
wrote:

> We need more pegs in the world.  :)
>
> Huw
>
> On 11 November 2015 at 16:20, Peg Griffin <Peg.Griffin@att.net> wrote:
>
> > Kim, Mike, Peter,
> > Yes! Yes! Yes!
> > My reaction for Rubio was sort of sticking out an intellectual tongue:  I
> > wanted to send him a crate of Studs Terkel's book "Working,"
> > You've given me impetus to aim for something a tad more useful.
> > Peg
> >
> > PS Thinking about the false dichotomy in addition to non-facts, do you
> > think Rubio knows about the read-alouds for workers in the cigar-making
> > workshops in Cuba?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xmca-l-bounces+peg.griffin=att.net@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> > xmca-l-bounces+peg.griffin=att.net@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Peter
> > Smagorinsky
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:29 AM
> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The value of Philosophy: xmca and the GOP
> >
> > Mike, the "need more welders" line has been around conservative circles
> > for a while now, part of conservative anti-intellectualism. I wrote a
> > response to one a little while back at
> >
> http://getschooled.blog.myajc.com/2015/02/09/opinion-issue-isnt-welding-vs-chaucer-its-how-to-remove-barriers-to-college/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> > xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of mike cole
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:14 AM
> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > Subject: [Xmca-l] The value of Philosophy: xmca and the GOP
> >
> > ​Kim et al-- One of the big applause lines at the GOP debate last night
> > came from Marco Rubio. Declaring (falsely) that welders earn more than
> > philosophers, he got his applause by declaring "We need more welders and
> > less philosophers" (qouted from memory).
> >
> > Given the high value placed on critical thinking, never mind the ground
> > rules of civil discourse, our admiration for children-as-philosophers,
> > among xmca participants, the applause might give one pause. A reminder of
> > the centrality of values in the organization of educational activities.
> >
> > Hmmmmm
> >
> > mike​
> >
> > --
> >
> > It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
> > object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> >
> >
> >
>



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