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[Xmca-l] Re: Congratulations Men



True story,  the English is cleaned up to protect the innocent

My first year of graduate school there were two female physicists who had just come over from China who I had become friendly with.  One morning I hear a knock on my door.  There stands one of the physicists

"Where do we get our tickets?"  She asks me.

"What?"  I say.

"Our tickets.  Me and my roommate want to know where we get our movie tickets."

"Movie tickets?"  She nods her head excitedly.  "Why would you get movie tickets?"

She looks at me like I'm an idiot.  "Because it's international women's day."

"International women's day?  We don't have a women's day."

"Of course you do," she said frustrated.  "It's international.  That's why they call it international women's day."

"No, we don't have a women's day in the United States."

"Women's day," she says insistent.  "We get movie tickets.  We don't have to work."

"No," I say, "there is no women's day in the United States."

Her eyes get wide.  "Does that mean I'm supposed to go into my lab."

"There's no women's day."

She sighs and turns around - and says as she leaves (interestingly enough in English), "But I'm too old for children's day."

I just didn't have the heart to tell her.

Happy men's day everybody.

Michael

  



-----Original Message-----
From: xmca-l-bounces+mglassman=ehe.ohio-state.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces+mglassman=ehe.ohio-state.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of mike cole
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 10:24 PM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Congratulations Men

Try Wordsworth, Huw, re child-man (aka grownup).

The Benjamin is really amazing. That's it.  How he saw this in Klee is amazing...... to me.
mike

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:

> And who was it that said that the child is the father of the man -- 
> maybe I read that from Ilyenkov?
>
> Huw
>
>
>
> On 9 November 2015 at 02:18, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Erm, the chimera performing a sanctifying act, I meant to say.  V. nice.
> >
> > Huw
> >
> > On 9 November 2015 at 02:16, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> This one?
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelus_Novus
> >>
> >> I felt it was from Klee immediately, seeing a lion and phoenix chimera.
> >> A good emblem for sure.  But, by the way, I was thinking 
> >> predominantly one's own childhood as the idea with a bridge to the 
> >> children now.  So,
> for
> >> the universally minded it is so.
> >>
> >> Huw
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9 November 2015 at 01:53, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was thinking about a children's day, too, Huw.
> >>>
> >>> When I was a kid, Nov. 11th was Armistice Day. Then it became 
> >>> Memorial Day, now it is Veterans day. Benjamin's picture of the 
> >>> Angel of History "to
> a
> >>> T"
> >>> as we
> >>> blokes say.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> PS- All is not gloom vis a vis Nov. 11th. It is the day I met my wife!
> >>> :-)
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Huw Lloyd 
> >>> <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > And, if I recall correctly, a sense of specialness of the day in 
> >>> > conjunction with a community-wide collective activity (cleaning 
> >>> > the
> >>> rooms,
> >>> > including moving heavy furniture to do so).
> >>> >
> >>> > Huw
> >>> >
> >>> > On 9 November 2015 at 01:21, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > IN his book on teaching deaf/blind kids, A. Meshcheryakov says 
> >>> > > they
> >>> used
> >>> > > teh celebration of national holidays as a way of imparting a 
> >>> > > sense
> of
> >>> > time.
> >>> > > Andy
> >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > > *Andy Blunden*
> >>> > > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/ On 9/11/2015 12:17 PM, Huw 
> >>> > > Lloyd wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> I don't know.  The best thing that I can think of that is
> consonant
> >>> with
> >>> > >> the media of 'a day' is the recognition of the cultural 
> >>> > >> notion of
> >>> time.
> >>> > >>  Putting it in that context, is does seem the case that some 
> >>> > >> of long-standing holy-days do implicate certain constants 
> >>> > >> (relative
> to
> >>> our
> >>> > >> cultures and their histories), e.g. the equinoctes.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Generally I have an aversion to such artifices as celebratory
> days,
> >>> but
> >>> > I
> >>> > >> think I might participate in something like a children's day,
> >>> thereby
> >>> > >> encouraging some reflection on at least a generational 
> >>> > >> timescale
> in
> >>> > >> contrast to the 24hour/5year media-politicking.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Best,
> >>> > >> Huw
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 9 November 2015 at 00:55, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
> >>> <mailto:
> >>> > >> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>     I think the point is that holidays have *always* been
> >>> > >>     fixed to reinforce the normative order. The only
> >>> > >>     exception I know is May Day, which is not a holiday
> >>> > >>     here in Oz.
> >>> > >>     Andy
> >>> > >>     ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > >>     *Andy Blunden*
> >>> > >>     http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> >>> > >>     <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>     On 9/11/2015 11:51 AM, mike cole wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         Dear Colleagues -Here is the latest word on
> >>> > >>         International Mens day and its
> >>> > >>         presence in the United States thanks to a hint
> >>> > >>         about checking Wikipedia:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         Is it just me, or does anyone out there think that
> >>> > >>         some thought should be
> >>> > >>         giving to gender neutral holidays instead of the
> >>> > >>         normative order? For
> >>> > >>         example, how about a Parents Day and a
> >>> > >>         Grandparents day. With time off and
> >>> > >>         a little family time, whatever that family might be.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         mike
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Hans Knutagård
> >>> > >>         <hans.knutagard@ingressus.se
> >>> > >>         <mailto:hans.knutagard@ingressus.se>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>             wrote:
> >>> > >>             In Sweden we celebrate Fathers day evry year
> >>> > >>             the Sunday in November
> >>> > >>             between the 8 and 14. It started 1931 as a
> >>> > >>             respons to Mother's day in May
> >>> > >>             (in Sweden).
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 8 nov. 2015 kl. 20:58 skrev Rauno Huttunen
> >>> > >>                 <rakahu@utu.fi <mailto:rakahu@utu.fi>>:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 Hello,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 In Finland it is Father's Day.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 Rauno Huttunen
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 Lähetetty iPadista
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu
> >>> > >>                     <mailto:mcole@ucsd.edu>> kirjoitti
> >>> > >>                     8.11.2015 kello 21.37:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     I have learned from my Russian
> >>> > >>                     colleagues that today is the
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>             International
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     Day honoring Men, which I am told is
> >>> > >>                     celebrated in 70 countries
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>             including
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     the US (Wikipedia so testifies). But I
> >>> > >>                     have never heard of it! Just me,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>             or
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     is this
> >>> > >>                     not a generally recognized holiday in
> >>> > >>                     the U.S.?
> >>> > >>                     mike
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     --
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     It is the dilemma of psychology to
> >>> > >>                     deal as a natural science with an
> >>> > >>                     object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with 
> >>> an object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>



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It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an object that creates history. Ernst Boesch