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[Xmca-l] Re: Congratulations Men



Try Wordsworth, Huw, re child-man (aka grownup).

The Benjamin is really amazing. That's it.  How he saw this in Klee is
amazing...... to me.
mike

On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:

> And who was it that said that the child is the father of the man -- maybe I
> read that from Ilyenkov?
>
> Huw
>
>
>
> On 9 November 2015 at 02:18, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Erm, the chimera performing a sanctifying act, I meant to say.  V. nice.
> >
> > Huw
> >
> > On 9 November 2015 at 02:16, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> This one?
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelus_Novus
> >>
> >> I felt it was from Klee immediately, seeing a lion and phoenix chimera.
> >> A good emblem for sure.  But, by the way, I was thinking predominantly
> >> one's own childhood as the idea with a bridge to the children now.  So,
> for
> >> the universally minded it is so.
> >>
> >> Huw
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9 November 2015 at 01:53, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was thinking about a children's day, too, Huw.
> >>>
> >>> When I was a kid, Nov. 11th was Armistice Day. Then it became Memorial
> >>> Day,
> >>> now it is Veterans day. Benjamin's picture of the Angel of History "to
> a
> >>> T"
> >>> as we
> >>> blokes say.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> PS- All is not gloom vis a vis Nov. 11th. It is the day I met my wife!
> >>> :-)
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > And, if I recall correctly, a sense of specialness of the day in
> >>> > conjunction with a community-wide collective activity (cleaning the
> >>> rooms,
> >>> > including moving heavy furniture to do so).
> >>> >
> >>> > Huw
> >>> >
> >>> > On 9 November 2015 at 01:21, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > IN his book on teaching deaf/blind kids, A. Meshcheryakov says they
> >>> used
> >>> > > teh celebration of national holidays as a way of imparting a sense
> of
> >>> > time.
> >>> > > Andy
> >>> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > > *Andy Blunden*
> >>> > > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> >>> > > On 9/11/2015 12:17 PM, Huw Lloyd wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> I don't know.  The best thing that I can think of that is
> consonant
> >>> with
> >>> > >> the media of 'a day' is the recognition of the cultural notion of
> >>> time.
> >>> > >>  Putting it in that context, is does seem the case that some of
> >>> > >> long-standing holy-days do implicate certain constants (relative
> to
> >>> our
> >>> > >> cultures and their histories), e.g. the equinoctes.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Generally I have an aversion to such artifices as celebratory
> days,
> >>> but
> >>> > I
> >>> > >> think I might participate in something like a children's day,
> >>> thereby
> >>> > >> encouraging some reflection on at least a generational timescale
> in
> >>> > >> contrast to the 24hour/5year media-politicking.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Best,
> >>> > >> Huw
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 9 November 2015 at 00:55, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
> >>> <mailto:
> >>> > >> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>     I think the point is that holidays have *always* been
> >>> > >>     fixed to reinforce the normative order. The only
> >>> > >>     exception I know is May Day, which is not a holiday
> >>> > >>     here in Oz.
> >>> > >>     Andy
> >>> > >>     ------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > >>     *Andy Blunden*
> >>> > >>     http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
> >>> > >>     <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>     On 9/11/2015 11:51 AM, mike cole wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         Dear Colleagues -Here is the latest word on
> >>> > >>         International Mens day and its
> >>> > >>         presence in the United States thanks to a hint
> >>> > >>         about checking Wikipedia:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         Is it just me, or does anyone out there think that
> >>> > >>         some thought should be
> >>> > >>         giving to gender neutral holidays instead of the
> >>> > >>         normative order? For
> >>> > >>         example, how about a Parents Day and a
> >>> > >>         Grandparents day. With time off and
> >>> > >>         a little family time, whatever that family might be.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         mike
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>         On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Hans Knutagård
> >>> > >>         <hans.knutagard@ingressus.se
> >>> > >>         <mailto:hans.knutagard@ingressus.se>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>             wrote:
> >>> > >>             In Sweden we celebrate Fathers day evry year
> >>> > >>             the Sunday in November
> >>> > >>             between the 8 and 14. It started 1931 as a
> >>> > >>             respons to Mother's day in May
> >>> > >>             (in Sweden).
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 8 nov. 2015 kl. 20:58 skrev Rauno Huttunen
> >>> > >>                 <rakahu@utu.fi <mailto:rakahu@utu.fi>>:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 Hello,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 In Finland it is Father's Day.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 Rauno Huttunen
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                 Lähetetty iPadista
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu
> >>> > >>                     <mailto:mcole@ucsd.edu>> kirjoitti
> >>> > >>                     8.11.2015 kello 21.37:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     I have learned from my Russian
> >>> > >>                     colleagues that today is the
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>             International
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     Day honoring Men, which I am told is
> >>> > >>                     celebrated in 70 countries
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>             including
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     the US (Wikipedia so testifies). But I
> >>> > >>                     have never heard of it! Just me,
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>             or
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     is this
> >>> > >>                     not a generally recognized holiday in
> >>> > >>                     the U.S.?
> >>> > >>                     mike
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     --
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>                     It is the dilemma of psychology to
> >>> > >>                     deal as a natural science with an
> >>> > >>                     object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
> >>> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>



-- 

It is the dilemma of psychology to deal as a natural science with an
object that creates history. Ernst Boesch