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[Xmca-l] Re: Having an experience
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Yes, Larry, BOTH doing and undergoing are necessary for an
If you are acting blindly to what you are doing then you
cannot have an experience in that,
On 18/07/2015 1:40 PM, Larry Purss wrote:
"changing how you henceforth interact with a certain kind
of situation, person or whatever".
This form of wilfully changing the world as a "doing" may
"conceal" as well as "reveal" and become one sided "doing".
However, as I was reading Dewey's "Having an Experience" I
was reading a caution that we also pause in our
reflections/critiques when we are intently focusing on
"doing". That THIS "doing" may be/come a one sided
intended focus if we loose sight of the "on the other
hand" of "doing" [the receiving aspect] as also changing
how you henceforth interact with a certain kind of
situation, person, or whatever."
Changing "how you henceforth act" includes this
other kind of "doing" that is not so focused on
"constructing" but is more focused as anticipation
opening towards and undergoing "an" experience as a way
of orienting within the world.
performing the world "includes" this doing and that doing
and both are agentic ways of experiencing forming places.
Either alone and we loose having "an" experience.
Is Dewey actually saying what I am putting in his mouth?
Am I "translating"? or learning a different "language"?
Here is Thomas Kuhn's understanding of "learning a language"
There is a certain group of connected terms that seem to
occur together in closely related ways in areas that do
not make sense. Finally one perceives that if you "use"
the words THIS way you can finally understand what these
passages in a text "mean". You then utilize what you have
"discovered" and teach other people to use the words in
THAT way. That's why Kuhn says that the process of
"understanding" involves language LEARNING and cannot be
reduced to "translation"
You cannot go back and forth between the two languages.
You cannot simply incorporate terms from another language
into your own language and "use" them interchangeably with
your own terms."
Now to "understand" the language is conceptual but must we
also undergo having "an" experience "using" this language
before we "understand" this language. And is THIS process
of undergoing "an" experience the meaning of "learning"?
Andy, I am asking if both kinds of "doing" are necessary
for learning and to "have" an experience that is
meaningful? Both in/take and out/take [taking "in"] and
[taking "out"]. Anticipation consummated and completed
and at rest [not concluded and finished] In Dewey's
language "phases" of experience. In place-making the
"extension" within time.