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[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: English version of Cultural Model



Henry,
I guess I was wondering less about collaboration, cooperation, or even
competition and more about "collusion"!

What happens when supposed novices "collude"?
(whether in the case of Haiti or NSL).

-greg

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:06 AM, HENRY SHONERD <hshonerd@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was going to read more carefully all of the readings that have been
> proferred lately, including: Martin’s piece, “Schooling: Domestication or
> Ontolgical Construction (proffered by Greg), David’s piece, “Between
> Lessons: The ZPD in Korean Schools”, but the dialog is moving along at such
> a pace that I wanted to jump in with something that just occurred to me:
> David has talked of collaboration and cooperation, but what about
> competition? That’s what a scrum is about, at least as it applies to
> rugby.(Thank you Annalisa!) That would raise the issue of who is on which
> “side”. And how seriously we take the game, which likely depends on how
> serious and permanent the effects of winning and losing. Recognition and
> resilience have to be part of this. And culture. Has Vygotsky ever talked
> about the ZPD in as it plays out in a real classroom, where cooperation,
> collaboration and competition take place? For example, is the functional
> method of double stimulation done always with individual children? Come to
> think of it, did Piaget’s method involve working with more than one child?
>
> Henry
>
>
>
> > On Jul 8, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > ​A colleague was just telling me of Michel-Rolph Trouillot's book on the
> > Haitian Revolution, *Silencing the Past: Power and the Production of
> > History*. One of the things that he mentioned was that Trouillot points
> to
> > the general non-recognizability of what happened in Haiti - here was the
> > first black republic and the first central American nation to declare
> > independence from colonialism and yet almost no one had written about it.
> > In the historical consciousness (of North Americans), it was as if it
> never
> > happened - an "unthinkable history". At the time of its happening, it was
> > truly unthinkable - notions of liberty among a Black populace was an
> > impossible thing for white Europeans to imagine.
> >
> > And yet, it happened.
> >
> > In connection with questions about "the end in the beginning" and the
> > (seeming?) necessity of the expert-novice relationship, I wonder if this
> > might be a blind spot for Vygotsky-ian theorizing vis a vis creativity,
> > innovation, and the "new"?
> >
> > With respect to Haiti, it seems like something new is coming into being.
> So
> > then, how do we imagine this new-ness of being? The default Vygotsky-ian
> > approach seems to be that the new development comes from the
> > already-fully-formed. In the case of Haiti, this could lead down the
> > unfortunate path of seeing the Haitian situation (the new) as being
> > dependent upon the European colonizers (the fully-formed). This seems to
> > me, in a sense, to return us to the view that there was "nothing new" in
> > the Haitian revolution.
> >
> > This is a potential blind spot that I was pointing to with Packer's piece
> > as well as in the case of Nicaraguan sign language. Can we imagine the
> > "new" coming from within a community (of novices!) rather than from
> without?
> >
> > I'd welcome corrections here to my thinking about Vygotsky, CHAT, and/or
> > Haiti. Please.
> >
> > -greg
> >
> > ​
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Dr. Paul C. Mocombe <
> pmocombe@mocombeian.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Dr. Madhere  has provided the English version of the kreyol charts I
> sent
> >> in a previous email.  I am waiting for the paper.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® II
> >>
> >> <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: "Madhere, Serge"
> >> <smadhere@Howard.edu> </div><div>Date:07/04/2015  9:36 AM  (GMT-05:00)
> >> </div><div>To: pmocombe@mocombeian.com </div><div>Subject: English
> >> version of Cultural Model </div><div>
> >> </div>Mr Mocombe,
> >>
> >>
> >> As you requested, please find attached the English version of the slides
> >> from my model on culture and education.
> >>
> >>
> >> Serge Madhere PhD
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Anthropology
> > 880 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > Brigham Young University
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
>
>
>


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