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[Xmca-l] Re: "Language Gap" forum in JLA



Yes, I recently read Paul Tough's book Whatever it Takes about Geoffrey
Canada's Harlem Children's Zone. I recall that Hart and Risley's study was
one among many that were central to Canada's vision of things (and it
played a very central role in the argument presented in the book).
I can't help but wonder if this isn't just a way of dealing with the
problem of fundraising and getting funding.
Anyone else?
-greg



On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:

> Mike, help us out with some titles?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of mike cole
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 3:16 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: "Language Gap" forum in JLA
>
> did you see my paper on this issue using bill hall's work?
> Its one of my list of topics lurching along
>
> m
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu> wrote:
>
> > I agree. The "word gap" research has often been conducted using
> > standardized vocabulary tests that assume that if words aren't on the
> > tests, then they don't really count. And guess whose words are on the
> > tests? Not the kid in the housing project or barrio.
> >
> > But I've heard well-regarded university professors refer to the
> > Matthew Effect of rich getting richer and poor getting poorer based on
> > how kids are talked to at home. How many white university
> > researchers--the sort of people who makes these claims--have ever
> > tried to get up a housing project staircase to talk to anyone and see
> > what they're saying and where they learned it from? (I say staircase
> > because when I lived in Chicago, a chronic problem of high rise
> > housing projects was that gangs would disable the elevators as soon as
> > they opened and patrol the lobbies and stairwells to control life in
> > the building.)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:
> > xmca-l-bounces+smago=uga.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of mike cole
> > Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 2:21 PM
> > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: "Language Gap" forum in JLA
> >
> > Very interesting paper. It is amazing how the culture of poverty has
> > made such a comback.
> > mike
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:18 AM, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > thanks!!
> > > mike
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Peter Smagorinsky <smago@uga.edu>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> A lot of pretty smart contributors to this forum. p
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes
> > > you see something you weren't noticing which makes you see something
> > > that isn't even visible. N. McLean, *A River Runs Through it*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes
> > you see something you weren't noticing which makes you see something
> > that isn't even visible. N. McLean, *A River Runs Through it*
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> All there is to thinking is seeing something noticeable which makes you
> see something you weren't noticing which makes you see something that isn't
> even visible. N. McLean, *A River Runs Through it*
>
>


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