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[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: NYTimes.com: A Deal That Preserves Greece¹s Place in Eurozone, and Fiscal Restraints
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I have heard this story many times, about struggle within capitalist
economic systems, how any movement "Left" is either co-opted or "allowed"
to flourish--hence reproducing the very system it purportedly attempts to
This is, in my limited view as a grassroots organizer working with Raza
communities in Southern California, a rather limited and limiting view of
social change and historical transformation. Take for example the
Indigenous movements in Bolivia, where do these fit within the rather
Socialist struggle is workers' struggle --> "authentic" struggle -->
I think there are other back doors and pathways; multiple her-stories
playing out. While global capital is globalizing, workers' struggle itself
needs to be repositioned within and understood as local. I believe, much
against the dominant White Left narrative of the Indigenous struggle in
Bolivia, that their's is an Indigenous struggle primarily--which later, as
latent contradictions, manifests as a "workers'" movement.
There is also the phenomenological question of transformation and
her/historical change: how do the youth and people involved in Podemos
make sense of their own participation? Is it that they lack a
macro-critical-analysis/awareness? Why is it that often this
macro-critical-analysis/awareness can be taken so readily by people not
engaged in those concrete struggles?
On 2/22/15 9:01 PM, "Ulvi İçil" <email@example.com> wrote:
>I respect other people's views. But I can not understand how, not the
>working masses, but the educated and thinking people are so easily
>by the rise of such pseudo-leftist movements like Syriza and Podemos in
>Spain. It is a well-known fact that capitalist system never tolerates, put
>aside encourages, a real working-class movement which truly represents the
>interests of the working people to rise so easily whereas in the case of
>Syriza it is just the opposite. Syriza's rise is facilitated by the
>because Syriza facilitates the management of capitalism's deep crisis. It
>promised to do so, primarily to the capitalist system. This is apparent,
>that it tries to ease the results of the crisis for the capitalist class,
>and not the working-class. Syriza is another of innombrable experiences
>whose main mission is to extend the life of this system which can give
>nothing anymore to working-classes, especially to younger generations.
>In capitalism, nobody opens your way so easily if you really question and
>act truly against the interests of its dominant class.
>I strongly propose to subscribe to www.solidnet.org in order to be able to
>be informed of the regular statements of kke, communist party of greece,
>which increased its votes under such deceiving conditions.
>Paul Krugman has been really good on the Greek situation and his links are
>even better. He links to an economist who is stunned at the NYT position
>(Krugman has a twice a week column for the NYT). It is the third post
>in the blog that convinced me that Syriza really knows what they're doing
>and they are looking to extend the discussion over months (the opposite of
>what Ireland did). This is not what Krugman exactly says, but it fits
>adding in a healthy does of critical thinking, a sprinkling of Marxism,
>perhaps even a dash of cultural historical perspectives.
>Here is his blog in case anybody is interested.
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>Subject: [Xmca-l] Fwd: NYTimes.com: A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place
>Eurozone, and Fiscal Restraints
>One American assessment of what happened in Greece's efforts to break the
>grip of Germany and the Eurozone. Active involvement of European workers
>outside of Athens not particularly evident.
>Subject: NYTimes.com: A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place in Eurozone,
> News Analysis A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place in Eurozone, and
>Fiscal Restraints <
>An agreement to extend Greece?s bailout for four months also committed the
>nation to fiscal targets and other conditions that its new leadership had
>vowed to scrap.
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