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[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: NYTimes.com: A Deal That Preserves Greece¹s Place in Eurozone, and Fiscal Restraints

I have heard this story many times, about struggle within capitalist
economic systems, how any movement "Left" is either co-opted or "allowed"
to flourish--hence reproducing the very system it purportedly attempts to

This is, in my limited view as a grassroots organizer working with Raza
communities in Southern California, a rather limited and limiting view of
social change and historical transformation.  Take for example the
Indigenous movements in Bolivia, where do these fit within the rather
rigid schema:

Socialist struggle is workers' struggle --> "authentic" struggle -->
anti-capitalist "movement"

I think there are other back doors and pathways; multiple her-stories
playing out. While global capital is globalizing, workers' struggle itself
needs to be repositioned within and understood as local.  I believe, much
against the dominant White Left narrative of the Indigenous struggle in
Bolivia, that their's is an Indigenous struggle primarily--which later, as
latent contradictions, manifests as a "workers'" movement.

There is also the phenomenological question of transformation and
her/historical change: how do the youth and people involved in Podemos
make sense of their own participation?  Is it that they lack a
macro-critical-analysis/awareness?  Why is it that often this
macro-critical-analysis/awareness can be taken so readily by people not
engaged in those concrete struggles?


Miguel Zavala

On 2/22/15 9:01 PM, "Ulvi İçil" <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> wrote:

>I respect other people's views. But I can not understand how, not the
>working masses, but the educated and thinking people are so easily
>by the rise of such pseudo-leftist movements like Syriza and Podemos in
>Spain. It is a well-known fact that capitalist system never tolerates, put
>aside encourages, a real working-class movement which truly represents the
>interests of the working people to rise so easily whereas in the case of
>Syriza it is just the opposite. Syriza's rise is facilitated by the
>because Syriza facilitates the management of capitalism's deep crisis. It
>promised to do so, primarily to the capitalist system. This is apparent,
>that it tries to ease the results of the crisis for the capitalist class,
>and not the working-class. Syriza is another of innombrable experiences
>whose main mission is to extend the life of this system which can give
>nothing anymore to working-classes, especially to younger generations.
>In capitalism, nobody opens your way so easily if you really question and
>act truly against the interests of its dominant class.
>I strongly propose to subscribe to www.solidnet.org in order to be able to
>be informed of the regular statements of kke, communist party of greece,
>which increased its votes under such deceiving conditions.
>Paul Krugman has been really good on the Greek situation and his links are
>even better.  He links to an economist who is stunned at the NYT position
>(Krugman has a twice a week column for the NYT).  It is the third post
>in the blog that convinced me that Syriza really knows what they're doing
>and they are looking to extend the discussion over months (the opposite of
>what Ireland did).  This is not what Krugman exactly says, but it fits
>adding in a healthy does of critical thinking, a sprinkling of Marxism,
>perhaps even a dash of cultural historical perspectives.
>Here is his blog in case anybody is interested.
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>Subject: [Xmca-l] Fwd: NYTimes.com: A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place
>Eurozone, and Fiscal Restraints
>One American assessment of what happened in Greece's efforts to break the
>grip of Germany and the Eurozone. Active involvement of European workers
>outside of Athens not particularly evident.
>Subject: NYTimes.com: A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place in Eurozone,
>Fiscal Restraints
>To: lchcmike@gmail.com
>     News Analysis A Deal That Preserves Greece’s Place in Eurozone, and
>Fiscal Restraints <
>An agreement to extend Greece?s bailout for four months also committed the
>nation to fiscal targets and other conditions that its new leadership had
>vowed to scrap.
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