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[Xmca-l] Re: What is a Pedagogy of the Oppressors?



Annalisa,

Pedagogy of the Oppressors is harassing people who make a politically incorrect comment.
 Frawley has his version of the facts, but there is other research that he does not mention
that supports Indo-Aryan/Indo-Persian invasion/migration possibly in waves. Sanskrit
and Baltic languages like Latvian have striking similarities. It doesn't mean that the
Latvians conquered India. Both groups could have migrated in different directions
from a central location. Yes, Sanskrit was undoubtedly spoken long before it was written down.
Also from what I read the Vedas are about a people whose habitat is the grasslands
unlike India's terrain.

Apparently this has become a taboo subject.

> From: annalisa@unm.edu
> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 18:31:43 +0000
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: What is a Pedagogy of the Oppressors?
> 
> Hi Francine,
> 
> I believe that the info you want is there in the link I sent. I'm surprised you did not see it in the article. I realize it is long, but it is there. Granted, there are no citations, but you are free to write David Frawley and ask for sources. I'm sure he would reach out, as any scholar would. 
> 
> Furthermore, I would ask you to investigate where the Aryan conquest story comes from. Frawley presents a solid case.
> 
> Pedagogy of the Oppressors is learning how to ignore and not listen and then to tell the convenient stories. 
> 
> That Sanskrit was written down in 2000 BC does not mean it did not exist as an oral language before that. If having things written down is the only proof of language that there can be, then I suppose the Native Americans did not exist either until the 19th or 20th century. 
> 
> And yes it is charged, so perhaps reflect before posting something that could be contentious, even offensive to some people. I did ignore it the first time you mentioned it, but the second time I had to speak up. 
> 
> Scientific data does show us the real story, so I believe that science can resolve the issue. It doesn't have to be contentious at all.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Annalisa
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of larry smolucha <lsmolucha@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 11:44 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: What is a Pedagogy of the Oppressors?
> 
> Hi Annalisa,
> 
> Yes, I see there is great controversy regarding the idea of an Aryan invasion/migration
> to Indian. From what I was able to read (on the internet) the controversy is ongoing
> and politically charged.  I did not see any evidence (genetic, linguistic, or archaeological)
> that the Vedic culture in India is far more older than 2,000 B.C. (Vedic Sanskrit).
> There were paleolithic people in India, and around 4000 to 2500 B.C. the Dravidian
> culture of the Indus River Valley appeared.
> 
> This topic might be too emotionally charged to ever be resolved by scientific research.
> The National Geographic Genome project could eventually document migration routes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: annalisa@unm.edu
> > To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 04:12:18 +0000
> > Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: What is a Pedagogy of the Oppressors?
> >
> > Hi Francine,
> >
> > Immediately I must post this link in response to your view of the Aryans. I must divulge that there is significant doubt about Aryan conquests; the Vedic culture is far, far more older than 2000 B.C, which is non-trivial.
> >
> > http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/ancient/aryan/aryan_frawley.html
> >
> > I can't say where stoicism generates, but Buddhism did arise from Vedic culture, likely in response to corruption in the caste system, which is my sense of things putting it all together, which is to say, I've not researched this and cannot offer citations.
> >
> > I'm not sure how many Buddhists know the Buddha was very likely taught the Vedas, since he was an Indian prince, after all.
> >
> > Sometimes oppression happens accidentally, just by not knowing the real story! Another nod to hermeneutics!
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Annalisa
> >