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[Xmca-l] Re: What is a Pedagogy of the Oppressors?



Excellent!

> On Jan 5, 2015, at 11:10 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Henry, I sent a quick invitation to Franson and we will see what unfolds. I
> hope his university email address is current.
> Larry
> 
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:52 PM, HENRY SHONERD <hshonerd@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Larry,
>> Yes, I am very much interested in finding what Manjali has done since his
>> 1998 article. And yes, I I will look into his new book: Labyrinths of
>> Language. From my background, I see this as connected to the LRH,
>> Linguistic Relativity Hypothesis. At the same time, I don’t want to lose
>> touch with the issue raised in the final paragraph of the article you
>> posted on Jan 2, wherein the issues of language acquisiton and usage-based
>> grammar are raised. IMHO we are engaged in efforts to scaffold discourse
>> adequate to the current chat: Pedagogy of the Oppressors. In that sense,
>> language acquisition is a collaborative, creative and life-long process. In
>> fact, I am terribly interested in the application of a semiotically-based
>> linguistics to ANY thread. I see all of our threads as instantiations of
>> dialog of that, potentially, serve as models of dialog in the larger world.
>> And, I am always thinking of the work of Vera in her work on creativity and
>> creative collaboration. Social dreaming that allows for cognitive
>> pluralism. I go on too long here. But YES!
>> Henry
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Henry,
>>> 
>>> Franson Manjali's 5 page summary I thought was a wonderful summary of
>> where
>>> we have been in exploring the relations among language, cognition, and
>>> *mind*.  I felt each paragraph  could be expanded into a different thread
>>> to be explored.  With the guidance [and leadership] of others on this
>> list
>>> [with more understanding of linguistics within anthropology and
>> psychology]
>>> I hope we may possibly read shared articles on this theme.
>>> Or alternatively, I could *listen in* as others more informed on this
>> topic
>>> have an ongoing conversation on these topics.
>>> 
>>> In those 5 pages Franson moved historically through an expansive
>>> historically effective horizon f understanding.  How do I now *enter*
>> this
>>> fascinating realm with my  limited background. I was able to follow each
>>> paragraph of the article  [read as individual events] because of my
>>> previous readings and conversations playing out on this listserve.
>>> 
>>> The reason I posted this article *as a primer*  was the way Franson
>>> *traced* the development of the evolving *dialogue* over a hundred year
>>> epoch.  I wanted to share his way of com-posing a historical interweaving
>>> scholarship as his way of  linking these linguistic theories as a
>>> conversation. A historically developing story that led him to his summary
>>> statement.
>>> 
>>> If others wanted to follow your suggestion to look deeply into his
>> summary
>>> statement I would be willing to contact Franson and explore if he has
>>> pursued his own recommendation. Maybe he even has an article he would
>> share
>>> with us.
>>> He has a new book out "Labyrinths of Language* which is an anthology of
>>> articles he has written.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 4:35 PM, HENRY SHONERD <hshonerd@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Larry and y’all,
>>>> Way back three days ago Larry posted the following under the subject
>>>> heading Primer of “A Primer of Culture and Semantics”:
>>>> 
>>>> "To others who like myself do not have a background in linguistics, I
>> offer
>>>> a very short 5 page essay that summarizes concisely the exploration of
>>>> semantics within culture and language and cognition studies in the last
>>>> century.”
>>>> 
>>>> Heres’s the link Larry provided:
>>>> http://www.revue-texto.net/Inedits/Manjali_Culture.html <
>>>> http://www.revue-texto.net/Inedits/Manjali_Culture.html>
>>>> 
>>>> I am wondering if metaphor and embodied cognition, as per the work of
>>>> Lakoff and others, might be considered of use in the current thread.
>>>> Oppression has the hallmarks of of a generative metaphor and this
>> thread,
>>>> oppression, and a way out of the opression itself might be fruitfully
>>>> construed in the light of dialog/discourse analysis. Of especial
>> interest
>>>> to me is the final paragraph of the article:
>>>> 
>>>> "It may be concluded from the above deliberations that after defining
>> the
>>>> basic premises of Cognitive Grammar (Langacker 1987, Lakoff 1987),
>> mainly
>>>> on the basis of earlier works on natural categorisation in psychology
>>>> (Rosch), anthropological linguistics (Berlin and Kay), philosophy
>>>> (Wittgenstein) and sociolinguistics (Labov), cognitive linguists turned
>> to
>>>> issues which had been the main object of linguistic inquiry before the
>>>> advent of generative theory. Langacker (1991) offered a number of
>> analyses
>>>> of different linguistic phenomena utilising the earlier defined notions
>> and
>>>> premises of cognitive linguistics. It has become necessary to verify
>>>> theoretical constructs and predictions in terms of new empirical data.
>> Two
>>>> areas of research seem to be particularly promising in this context:
>>>> cognitive analysis of discourse (Langacker 1999, Langacker 2001) and
>>>> cognitive description of the language acquisition processes. Both of
>> these
>>>> research domains offer massive corpora of unidealized, raw linguistic
>> data.
>>>> Attempts to describe discourse may serve to demonstrate how linguistic
>>>> knowledge is utilised by real users in real context, while attempts
>> aimed
>>>> at describing the process of language acquisition may demonstrate how
>> this
>>>> knowledge is really shaped in contextualised grammatical ontogenesis
>> under
>>>> the pressure of various mental and environmental factors. On the other
>>>> hand, Langacker’s (2000) dynamic usage-based model may well provide a
>> more
>>>> adequate framework for an insightful and comprehensive description of
>> the
>>>> mechanisms of language acquisition. The future of cognitively motivated
>>>> research on language acquisition seems to be promising."
>>>> 
>>>> Just wondering.
>>>> 
>>>> Henry
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Annalisa Aguilar <annalisa@unm.edu> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Larry and others,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am interested in "structures of feeling." Would you recommend
>> anything
>>>> in particular by Williams?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think I am with you (if this is what you are saying) that a
>> vocabulary
>>>> of sensing and feeling are important and frequently overlooked or swept
>>>> under the carpet as if feeling were proof of weakness and not of
>> humanity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also please recommend any reading by Levinas?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your additions to the soup.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Annalisa
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>