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[Xmca-l] Re: Not too long and not too short
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This resonates with me. I have two concerns: somehow the relation between XMCA and MCA gets lost. May be that is not that important for the forum now. Yet I really loved the idea of exchanging ideas about just published papers in the journal. And I did learn a lot from those discussions. Second, the amount of threads going on simoultaneously is larger than the attention span of some of us and that truly makes difficult to engage and learn. Following Andy's metaphor it is like too many people talking at the same time in the hall passing on top of each other. Additionally we could add that not all of those people talk the same language. So my question is how can we keep learning from each other in a context where there are also offline things to attend to...
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> El 23-12-2014, a las 21:40, Andy Blunden <firstname.lastname@example.org> escribió:
> I use the concept of a group of people talking together in the same room as a germ-cell and unit of analysis for analysing organisations and broad social and political processes, so it seemed it might useful to think about it here. I'd describe my stance like that of a group of students or researchers all studying at their own desk in a hall, and every so often someone has a question, and calls it out and people call back answers.
> I agree with not-broken-don't-fix-it and I agree that rules and rulers are not for us. I also find xmca to be way out in front of all comparators in terms of intellectual depth and mutual respect. But I think if we were all aware of how each of us see participation in xmca it would help us to act accordingly. So, for example, if I happened into a study hall and witnessed people occasionally calling out and answering questions or occasionally sharing discoveries or news, I would try to figure out what the shared interest was and I would tend to stick to the Q&A&News modes myself.
> *Andy Blunden*
> Peg Griffin wrote:
>> Other candidates for options:
>> a MOOC -- including suggestions about participation in terms of comfort with
>> certain pre-req readings (of published articles/books and often some package
>> of prior curated XMCA post sequences)
>> a tourist stop shared coffee break -- with noticings, questioning,
>> questing, promoting, guessing, opining regardless of ordinary conventions of
>> academic discourse
>> Someone had never heard of a modeling (maybe mapping) between on line and
>> f-t-f events? One of the earliest I ever saw (in the early 80's I think)
>> was a Japanese on-line group TEFL structured with, of course, Japanese
>> physical space referencing as well as rhetorical-discourse-genre units,
>> sensibilities, and customs.
>> Maybe thinking about non-on-line would bring XMCA face to face with its
>> cultural diversity.
>> A quirk in the occupy type general meeting is the omission of loudspeakers
>> and replacement by people repeating back what was said. Would an on-line
>> mapping of that occur and give folks the responsibility to write the "Re:"
>> before responding could be an interesting sporadic innovation replacing the
>> long message history tail? Maybe a once a week or once a month exercise of
>> it would be tolerable/fun/instructive? PG
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>> [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of Andy Blunden
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>> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Not too long and not too short
>> I would be interested to know what real-space activity people would take
>> xmca to be "modelling" in cyberspace?
>> Are we participating in
>> a kind of scientific symposium or maybe a conference?
>> or an after dinner conversation? (or maybe a staffroom conversation)?
>> a formal decision making meeting, where we address the Chair, make
>> amendments, etc.?
>> a Occupy-type general meeting?
>> Or is "none of the above" the only answer?
>> *Andy Blunden*
>> Annalisa Aguilar wrote:
>>> Apparently we need a Goldilocks section in the Newcomer's page!