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[Xmca-l] Re: Maths and science in Russia



Sorry I mistyped, I meant 2011.

Ed

On Dec 21, 2014, at  4:48 PM, Ed Wall wrote:

> Ulvi
> 
>      According to the 2015 TIMSS, the average score of fourth graders in the US is 541 where that of England and the Russian Federation is 542. I know that, in general, the mathematics curriculum in the US and England has nothing much to do with Vygotsky (and yet a lot to do with Piaget). A number of mathematics educators think that the math curriculum in the early grades in the US is not particularly successful (hat is one of the reasons behind some recent reform efforts in the US). Why do you think, given these average scores (and, of course, there are questions about TIMSS), the curriculum in Russia is "quite successful?"
> 
> Ed Wall
> On Dec 21, 2014, at  4:15 PM, Ulvi İçil wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Huw.
>> Yes, I know in Davydov it is called learning activity but my question was
>> aimed at the curriculum situation in Russia, current math curriculum
>> applied in Russia's primary schools?
>> What is this curriculum? Is it the one proposed by Davydov or bearing
>> another name?
>> And to put it in terms of Vygotsky, is the curriculum currently applied,
>> and which seems to be quite successful, has anything to do with Vygotskian
>> theory in Russia and in other countries where maths seems to be a
>> successful discipline in primary years.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Ulvi
>> 
>> 
>> 2014-12-22 0:01 GMT+02:00 Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com>:
>> 
>>> Ulvi,
>>> 
>>> The essential 'method' is to facilitate students'  own experimentation with
>>> methods.  This is called learning activity.
>>> 
>>> Huw
>>> 
>>> On 21 December 2014 at 12:15, Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> I know there are some works comparing Russia (Davydov's curriculum) and
>>> US,
>>>> and even some works done in US with an application of Davydov's, e.g. by
>>>> Schmittau.
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to know, not in detail, but just in general, which main
>>>> factors lie behind this success in Russia, it is Davydov, or Zarkov or
>>> any
>>>> other scholar's method.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> 
>>>> Ulvi
>>>> 
>>> 
>