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[Xmca-l] Re: Soviet/Russian critique of West neurosciences

Thank you Mike. Yes, the references can be ascertained. 

I am also biased. The purpose of the presentation is to introduce the sociogenetic principles of the development of higher psychological functions linked to neurosciences. 

I just came back from a symp in Chile about neurosciences, philosophy and free will and it was quite surprising to see some philosophers presenting to neuroscientists Aristotelian notions such as habit or virtue to account for the social, ethical context of "behaviour".

Have a look if you want

Cultural-historical psychology does a much better job bridging micro, onto and phylogenesis and so I will further present on this matter.

All the best


> On 4 Dec 2014, at 15:24, mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu> wrote:
> Hi Arturo--
> Excellent topic, says me from my biased perspective. You might check out
> the lead article here. (At least the refs should be decipherable and there
> is a bonus article by Harry Daniels!):
> http://psyjournals.ru/kip/2014/n3/index.shtml
> I agree with Natalia that Tanya Akhutina is also an excellent person to
> turn to, along with Bella Kotik-Friedgut who is on this list. They can
> certainly point you further.
> mike
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Arturo ESCANDON <arturo.escandon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Thank you very much Natalia, I will.
>> All the best
>> Arturo
>> Sent from my mobile device
>>> On 4 Dec 2014, at 13:21, Natalia Gajdamaschko <nataliag@sfu.ca> wrote:
>>> Hi Arturo,
>>> I think if you'd look at Luria's archive that Mike created, you'll find
>> lots of useful stuff for your task there.  I'd recommend this article of
>> Tatiana Akhutina, for starters:
>> http://luria.ucsd.edu/Vygotsky-n-Luria_DevelopemntalNeuropsychology.pdf
>>> Good luck!
>>> Natalia.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Arturo Escandon" <arturo.escandon@gmail.com>
>>> To: xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2014 7:58:55 PM
>>> Subject: [Xmca-l]  Soviet/Russian critique of West neurosciences
>>> I am working on a presentation about the importance of introducing a
>> sound unit of analysis in micro and ontogenesis to avoid the reductionistic
>> type of approach to "behaviour" in neurosciences. The standpoint is
>> philosophical.
>>> Even in early Soviet psychology you could see a split between the
>> sociogenetic approach and the Pavlovian one, which was considered closer to
>> neurophysiology as it was carried out in the West.
>>> Most of what I have read is scattered in different papers though. Has
>> anyone come across a monograph or a stand-alone paper that deals with the
>> differences in approach between the sociogenetic, object-directed-activity,
>> Soviet/Russian approach and the  kind of neuroscientific approach used in
>> the West?
>>> Mike's paper Phylogeny and cultural history in ontogeny has the above
>> narrative in the background, and has been extremely helpful, but I hope to
>> find a more metatheoretical paper.
>>> Best,
>>> Arturo Escandon
> -- 
> It is the dilemma of psychology to deal with a natural science with an
> object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.