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[Xmca-l] Re: Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya


I did read a little about Zoya. I am still curious what the actual questions are.

Happiness is a universal pursuit of all humans. The complexity arrives in the ways in which each person, each social group, each culture, even each language, defines that happiness. 

For Zoya that happiness appears partially to be patriotism at a time when patriots were necessary. I know that is not her only identity, and Ulvi does say she is more interested in Zoya's life than her demise. 

It seems the wiki page's focus upon her is as a subject of controversy, and so, obviously, I would like to sidestep that. Besides, I don't think that is what Ulvi is considering here anyway, but something else.

This makes me consider Vygotsky's discussion of "final form" in his "Problem of the Environment" lecture.

Such is my addition to this conversation!  :)



From: xmca-l-bounces+annalisa=unm.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces+annalisa=unm.edu@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Bella Kotik-Friedgut <bella.kotik@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 4:12 AM
To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya

Russian Wikipedia has a lot of information about Zoya and her family. It is
too long to start translation.

Sincerely yours Bella Kotik-Friedgut

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Annalisa Aguilar <annalisa@unm.edu> wrote:

> Dear Ulvi,
> Thank you for your post, which for me is like a single bird singing on a
> branch of its own (on this list). I do not know about Zoya, but I am
> curious to learn more.
> I fear that there has been silence to your post because it is a holiday
> weekend here in the US and most are with their families eating and eating
> and eating. Did I mention they are eating?
> So I am crafting a quick reply so you know at least your post was noticed!
> I believe myself that there _is_ one big happiness for all, so this
> resonated for me very, very much.
> What are your pressing questions in this regard? That is: in regard of
> Zoya's life? in regard to analysis of child development?
> Would you describe for me more fully the scope of your interest and
> inquiry?
> Kindest regards,
> Annalisa
> ________________________________________
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Ulvi İçil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 3:30 PM
> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l]  Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya
> Just a curiosity for the contuinity of past and present across generations:
> Anyone who heard about Zoya, died on 29th November 1942, against Nazis.
> For me , she is rather, in the context of this xmca group, an issue on the
> human development of a Soviet child and young for highest ideals.
> For instance, as a child, she asks to a writer:
> "Is there not a big, one common happiness for all?"
> I think this is a great question across all ages of humanity eternally.
> She decides that this common happiness is the land of Soviets.
> I am interested on the life, rather than death of her, as an analysis of a
> child and youth development issue.
> Best,
> Ulvi