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[Xmca-l] Re: History(ies) of this discourse community and futures past



Hi folks
Actually I asked Greg to send the irk for the two documents about the
history of xmca.

It can be found at lchc.ucsd.edu but I hace only iPhone access and could
not cut and paste the url. The two docs are on the history page under
archives.

People are considering how the discussion might improve and I figured it
might be useful to see some prior attempts at improvement dating bac to the
early days of the Internet,

The wiki is a separate topic and Greg's questions are entirely the product
of his pedagogical imagination.

Next week when I get back to San Diego I look forward to starting an
upgrade of xmca, a discussion list connected to Mind Culture and Activity.
Some interesting suggestions have been made that richly deserve attention.

Thanks to Greg for his good intentions, but I would appreciate some help
with figuring out xmca.

Now I am going to escape from this bloody device and hit send.  Another
long drive tomorrow.

Mike

On Saturday, November 29, 2014, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Folks,
> Mike asked me to forward this link to the list:
>
>
> http://lchcfestschrift.wikispaces.com/The+Story+of+LCHC+-+An+Unfinished+Polyphonic+Autobiography
>
> This is the link to the wiki-history of LCHC, the forerunner of the XMCA
> discourse community.
>
> Mike has proposed (see forwarded message below) that we all familiarize
> ourselves with this history (particularly those that are new to XMCA).
>
> To that end, I thought I'd pose a couple questions:
> What do you find interesting/surprising about the history of LCHC?
> What current threads (!) are being pulled through to the present day XMCA
> conversations? Here and elsewhere?
> How might we make sense of this history?
>
> I'm not sure if this is what Mike is pointing to, but it seems that there
> are some substantial discontinuities between the XMCA conversations of the
> past few years and what LCHC has been doing throughout most of its history.
> This isn't to say that is a bad thing, simply to point it out and to ask:
> why the differences?
>
> Finally, you'll notice that the chapters are chronological leading up to
> the last chapter titled The Future.
> That one remains unwritten but will soon be history.
>
> -greg
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: mike cole <mcole@ucsd.edu <javascript:;>>
> Date: Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 11:48 PM
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Fate, Luck and Chance [Language as a form]
> To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu
> <javascript:;>>
>
>
> Carol Et al
>
> It is a short holiday week in the US and I am on the road visiting family
> and friends. I have only limited access and am trying to think about what
> it means to have participants with such varied histories with the discourse
> community and its topic and such varied backgrounds. Uncharted territory.
>
> For those who care to see XMCA continue, I suggest that you read and
> reflect on the 30+ history of this discourse community. The summaries that
> I know of can be found at
> LCHC.ucsd.edu under history archives. There are two summaries there that
> go
> back to roughly 1983.
>
> Further comment without people stopping to familiarize themselves with
> prior history and without having participants ceasing to seek  solutions to
> the current confusions in the iniatives taken by others rather than in
> collective action in which they share responsibility seems unlikely to bear
> fruit that can nourish a productive future.
>
> All sorts of alternatives are possible.
>
> One alternative is not possible, and that is to eschew personal
> responsibility and lay it on the shoulders of a 76 year old "retired
> professor" whose inadequate understanding of the core issues of the role of
> culture in the development have been thoroughly documented by numerous real
> experts over decades.
>
> The record is there, open to all.
> Check it out. Then we can assess the future.
>
> Good luck to us all
>
> Mike
>


-- 
It is the dilemma of psychology to deal with a natural science with an
object that creates history. Ernst Boesch.