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[Xmca-l] Re: Fate, Luck and Chance [boundary crossing & power]

Dana, Miguel, Larry, David, Henry, and esteemed others,

Thank you for your personal reflections upon my posts. Because it is the holiday, I'm going to try taking a break from the list, but I wanted you to know that I am grateful for your POVs as voiced. I want to think about what you have put forward and will reply more directly if and when I can. 

I regret that Professor Mike had to wade in, as I'm guessing it must be extra work to be our soccer referee. However, I would like to second his observation that it is up to everyone to decide the future of the list. I can only speak for myself; I don't expect everyone to have it my way. I'm certainly not speaking up because I want to be a leader of the list. I'm just a perty novice looking to advance my knowledge in areas of my interests, as others want to do. I've expressed what I'm looking for and what I'd like to find. If I'm in the wrong neck of the woods and there are no munchkins here, I'd prefer know this sooner rather than later (I didn't know I could find so much metaphorical material in the Wizard of Oz, but I'm going with it :) ).

As far as my form, I will apologize to those who find it antagonistic in length, but I hope you might see instead that it measures more my desire and enthusiasm to participate than my need to hear myself talk, although how one does that on a list if writing and reading is experienced in silence. Also I'm attempting by "dotting my i's" to reveal something important, as performance. It is not to gain attention because I lack self-esteem, but to gain attention to the esteem of subjectivity, experienced in the present moment, and how thought takes place in that space. The only example of subjectivity that I have laying around is my own, and so... I've made use of myself as material. 

I wonder if the less one uses one's own subjectivity in discourse the more authority one believes one has? Or is it the other way around? These are only thoughts out loud about power and its expression, not an accusation to anyone here. 

Also, I'm not adverse to reading; I don't mean to create an aura of myself being unwilling to read, just that I want to know the purpose for it before being laden in reams of text to my nose. I do eat my vegetables, being vegetarian.

Last, definitional discourse has a place here and I don't mean to stop that. I'm just looking for more plural realities about those definitions and perhaps displayed in less combative, less exclusive forms. As a newcomer, I have found that difficult to negotiate. I can only describe what it is like for me. 

I'm here because I want to learn and to share. 

Have a happy and festive Thanksgiving.

Kindest regards,


P.S. Perhaps give thanks to the turkey who has made the ultimate sacrifice for your nourishment! :)