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[Xmca-l] Re: Objectivity of mathematics



Ah! Of course. 1967. I was trying to hitchhike through Sweden that weekend. Gave up and went back to Denmark. :)
andy
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Leif Strandberg wrote:

Yes, we changed in September 1967 from left to right, then in May 1968 we changed from right to left (politically).

Leif,
Sweden
9 nov 2014 kl. 01:18 skrev Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>:

Oh dear! some times I despair of the possibility of communication.
That the Earth is round is a social convention, but it is not *only* a social convention; it has a sound basis in material reality. That is to say, Julian, no amount of discoursing and activity can alter the fact that the world is round. The roundness of the Earth is also outside discourse and activity, even though it is made meaningful and known for us only thanks to discourse/activity. Driving on the right is subject to discourse/activity. In about 1968 Sweden changed from left to right. RIght-hand driving is *only* a social convention.
Simple, eh? I would have thought so.
Andy
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Martin John Packer wrote:
And also that the earth is round is a convention! Go figure!
Martin

On Nov 8, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Julian Williams <julian.williams@manchester.ac.uk> wrote:

I'm struggling to keep up here... Surely I didn't hear Andy Blunden say that 'objectivity' implies stuff that can't be transformed? I'm sure I must have misremembered that!.?