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[Xmca-l] Re: L2

Steve and Martin,
Perhaps Peltier & McCafferty (2010) may be useful here. This is an article
about how Italian learners (given certain circumstances) appropriated
Italian gestures ("new" identity/way-of-being) in their L2. Evidence of
transformation. It's adults not k-12.

On 11/3/14 10:53 AM, "HENRY SHONERD" <hshonerd@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Martin,
>I think Steve McCafferty (whom I have copied and whom I know from when we
>did doctoral work together) at University of Nevada has used Lantolf a
>lot re: L2. And I¹m pretty sure Steve would be interested in your
>questions. Steve wrote something fairly recently on gesture in L2, which
>I assume can be connected to TPR (Total Physical Response). If I am wrong
>about any of this, I apologize, but since you are teaching the stuff this
>week, I thought speed was necessary.
>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 4:50 AM, Martin John Packer
>><mpacker@uniandes.edu.co> wrote:
>> Hi David,
>> I have to teach a class on second language learning this week in my
>>course in Psychology of Language, so I've turned to Lantolf. My
>>university library webpage has been down for maintenance this weekend so
>>I've had limited access to his writing, but what I have been able to
>>read has confused me. In a couple of articles I find reasonable
>>summaries of LSV's ideas, but then Lantolf doesn't get around to
>>applying these ideas to L2! Looking at abstracts in Google Scholar it
>>seems that he's proposing that (1) L2 is learned in the ZPD (what
>>isn't?), (2) L2 is a mediator (what isn't?), and (3) private speech
>>occurs in L2 (okay, that could be interesting). I was expecting him to
>>attribute some role to L2 in the higher functions, or to suggest that L2
>>mediates in a specific way, or...
>> What am I missing?
>> Plus, I have a growing suspicion that most L2 research is conducted on
>>people willingly studying a foreign language in the classroom. Not much,
>>or nothing, on people who are forced to abandon their mother tongue
>>because they live somewhere where school, and/or work, is available only
>>if they speak a dominant language. I'm hoping you'll tell me I'm wrong
>>about this!
>> Martin