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[Xmca-l] Re: units of analysis? LSV versus ANL

On 17 October 2014 22:11, Martin John Packer <mpacker@uniandes.edu.co>

> I see a difference, Huw. I just don't see the difference that the
> difference makes.  And ANL cannot be correct: for one thing, in various
> texts LSV writes about the character of consciousness in preverbal
> children, and of how consciousness  is transformed by the acquisition of
> language. This would hardly be possible if language were a necessary
> condition for consciousness.

Do you mean unnecessary, Martin?  This isn't the statement.


> Martin
> On Oct 17, 2014, at 3:09 PM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Specifically, ANL is pointing to drivers and necessary conditions.  He is
> > saying that LSV considers language-ing the driver for consciousness,
> > whereas ANL points to activity.  This to my reading and thinking is
> > justifiably presented as a decisive difference.  It is the same as
> stating
> > that the deed precedes the word, and that the genetic precursor is
> > different to products derived from it.
> >