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[Xmca-l] Re: Phenomenology as lived experience

Hi Greg

Please could you send me the reference details?  I'd love to have a look.


On 2 October 2014 19:05, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Larry,
> and here is a recent articulation of the problematic of splitting reason
> from lived activity. It is from Tim Ingold's paper "That's enough about
> Ethnography" in the open source journal Hau:
> "These questions, however, are founded upon a certain understanding of
> immanence and transcendence, deeply rooted in the protocols of normal
> science,
> according to which human existence is constitutionally split between being
> in the
> world and knowing about it. The alleged contradiction between participation
> and
> observation is no more than a corollary of this split. As human beings, it
> seems, we
> can aspire to truth about the world only by way of an emancipation that
> takes us
> from it and leaves us strangers to ourselves (Ingold 2013: 5).
> Anthropology, surely, cannot passively acquiesce to this excision of
> knowing
> from being. More than any other discipline in the human sciences, it has
> the means
> and the determination to show how knowledge grows from the crucible of
> lives
> lived with others. "
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Greg,
> > Your inquiry of the *gap* forming when perception requires separating
> from
> > and re-composing or the perceptual field disappears from awareness has be
> > reflecting on *lived experience*, Peirce's firstness, and *mediation*.
> >
> > Imagine a musical score played as a living experience.
> > Now imagine a musician playing each single note as notated on the musical
> > score and re-cording each *individual* note.
> > After playing each note and re-cording the individual notes the musician
> > re-assembles and plays back the notes in a series.
> > How do you imagine the experience of listening to this reassembled
> > individual notes which had been composed as singularities. Would anything
> > be *missing* .Would we be orienting to go BEYOND the singular notes. Is
> > there *something* in EXCESS of the individual notes played in a series?
> Can
> > this *something extra* be indicated through the concept of *lived
> > experience* as phenomenological??
> > Is this lived experience *intersubjective* [or intrasubjective if you are
> > trying to imagine that there are not two discrete individualities who
> > exist first as subjects and then meet and conjoin].
> >
> > Intersubjective as I use the term is phenomenological in a similar way
> that
> > music is internotational AS living [not lived] experience.
> >
> > In language use, John Shotter's saying as lived experience in contrast
> with
> > the said.
> >
> > Peirce tried to re-configure *reasoning* as a practice [I would say a
> lived
> > experience] as distinct from the *theory* of reasoning or metareasoning
> > [reasoning about reasoning].
> >
> > I have a sense [and Peirce would include BOTH perception AND inference in
> > sense] that music that is played as individual notes is an abstracting
> > secondary derived practice extracted from the lived experience. When the
> > individual notes are reassembled in a series, and the gaps filled in
> > between each note *something* will still be missing [and deadened] in the
> > re-playing [the said]. What I think [or infer or sense] is missing is the
> > actual lived experience between I and Thou [the phenomenological
> > experience]] that is always in EXCESS of our abstracting and analyzing
> > and reassembling of the individualities as notations.
> > Larry
> >
> --
> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Anthropology
> 882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> Brigham Young University
> Provo, UT 84602
> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson

Carol A  Macdonald Ph D (Edin)
Developmental psycholinguist
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